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Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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I disable hyperthreading for better performance. In my experience as a mathematician building parallel compute servers, hyperthreading generates more heat than it is worth. I can overclock further without hyperthreading, to more than overtake the faint advantage that hyperthreading offers at a given clock speed. So I now buy binned, delidded processors from Silicon Lottery, choosing the best reasonably priced speed o…

I guess you mean i7-9700k instead of i7-9700.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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I think Stallman is more of a Tiresias

How so? I had to look Tiresias up on Wikipedia, a blind prophet, but I still don't see the connection. Would it be possible for you to please explain?

Tiresas' prophecies come true because of a poetic or literary recursion built into the Oedipus cycle or the Oresteia or whatever. (I'm AFK, where K means "my library.") So when the guy to whom Tiresias prophecies that said guy will commit patricide in fact kills his father, he does so because he tried to not kill his father, and in attempting to escape his destiny, inflicted it upon himself. Stallman's apocalyptic ravings have had their basic gist "come to pass," in this interpretation, because of the actions of the developer community or tech community or whatever, in the struggle to develop software, which software has spiraled beyond all reasonable control, even as the guy killed his father by trying not to do so. Thus this wise guy is hella Greek. And this parent poster is also a wise guy. And this patricide is about to become all-too-ironic, because throwing out one-liners of the parent's (post's) sort is a bleak literacy, which I have now killed. And literacy rises like a phoenix in my child post, and the guy who kills his father is blinded as punishment, and becomes a wandering seer himself. So there.

TLDR is that prophecies are self-fulfilling. Tiresias is the OG self-fulfilling prophet.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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History will show that Theo was right in a manner similar to how Stalman was right: technically correct analysis and eerily accurate predictions, but lacking in sufficient charisma to create more than a small following. To some extent, you might say they are like Cassandra; speaking the truth but not believed or listened to.

> but lacking in sufficient charisma to create more than a small following. IMO it's not that Linus has more charisma than Theo, it's simply the network effect of one project over the other.

The difference is because of the license. GPL license (created by Stallman, btw) won over BSD license.

The emergence of a GPL-licensed kernel was inevitable. If Linux didn't appear when it did, some other kernel would appear. Maybe folks would have more motivation to work on Hurd, and it would be the main kernel for everything now.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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With charisma, it’s not just quantity but quality. What appeals to some will repel others. De Raadt has qualities that entice him strongly to some, but are irksome to many, many more. See for example the trollish attitude to Comic Sans.

And Stallman is very off-putting to many with how unabashed and unashamed he is about some of his more extreme progressive views. Unfortunately for him, that excludes almost half of the potential support he would receive.

I don't think Stallman's political views are that extreme when you consider that a lot of free software advocates are actual communists.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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Don't know why you're comment is grayed, we absolutely need heavy monetary penalties for the worst kinds of data breaches. The abstract idea of a class action lawsuit isn't enough, even after the Equifax breach.

Do you have a similar opinion in regards to crimes? Do you think that there will be less crime if there are harsher prison sentences? Are you in favor of mandatory minimum sentences? If not, why do you think harsher punishments are needed here but not for crimes?

If street crime had lesser penalties than the profit of said crime, yeah, I'd be pushing for harsher sentences, yes.

That's pretty exclusively the purview of white collar crime behind a corporation though.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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With charisma, it’s not just quantity but quality. What appeals to some will repel others. De Raadt has qualities that entice him strongly to some, but are irksome to many, many more. See for example the trollish attitude to Comic Sans.

And Stallman is very off-putting to many with how unabashed and unashamed he is about some of his more extreme progressive views. Unfortunately for him, that excludes almost half of the potential support he would receive.

I'm a right-wing libertarian, and I've never felt excluded or anything like that because of his leftist views. This for many reasons:

1) He's not a hypocrite in any way. He's honest and you can tell that he has truly thought about his opinions.

2) In my country, I get bombarded with a ralentless stream of leftist ideology. The worst kind of leftism: the lazy 'slogan' leftism, from people too stupid to realize the full implications of their discourse. In comparison to them, Stallman is a moderate, thoughtful, sweet person.

3) I see his leftism as orthogonal to his software freedom ideology. I use and support free software, and I'm more pro-capitalism than Milton Friedman.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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the same applies to Stallman, if you consider that the FSF has been running for 34 years. But I believe grandparent didn't mean they lack charisma, but that they didn't have enough to swerve the general public.

I would posit that: impact = charisma * funding so .1 charisma score of some faceless tech exec * 1B in VC funding goes alot more than 2.0 charisma score * 50k of grasroots funding..

But funding is also a function of charisma, among other variables.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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And Stallman is very off-putting to many with how unabashed and unashamed he is about some of his more extreme progressive views. Unfortunately for him, that excludes almost half of the potential support he would receive.

I don't think Stallman's political views are that extreme when you consider that a lot of free software advocates are actual communists.

I’ll take a commie over a pedophile apologist any day.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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History will show that Theo was right in a manner similar to how Stalman was right: technically correct analysis and eerily accurate predictions, but lacking in sufficient charisma to create more than a small following. To some extent, you might say they are like Cassandra; speaking the truth but not believed or listened to.

djb also comes to mind.

Re: OpenBSD was right to disable hyperthreading [video]

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And Stallman is very off-putting to many with how unabashed and unashamed he is about some of his more extreme progressive views. Unfortunately for him, that excludes almost half of the potential support he would receive.

I'm a right-wing libertarian, and I've never felt excluded or anything like that because of his leftist views. This for many reasons: 1) He's not a hypocrite in any way. He's honest and you can tell that he has truly thought about his opinions. 2) In my country, I get bombarded with a ralentless stream of leftist ideology. The worst kind of leftism: the lazy 'slogan' leftism, from people too stupid to realize the ful…

I don’t care about his views on those kind of politics at all. But when it comes to free software he is an ideological maximalist. Take a look at how he uses computers personally, his values (at least currently) don’t fit in with most users expectations of what personal computing should be. His contributions aren’t in question, and his voice is a valuable one to have in the choir, but he’s not a person willing to accept a middle ground, and as such the RMS way of doing things is never going to be widely accepted.
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