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Post by torified »

mushtar wrote: post #209
ssijak wrote: post #23

I have just returned from one psytrance festival. I like to go there, not mainly for the music (which I like mostly), but for the atmosphere. Meeting all kind of different people and getting out from the usual "reality" and norms and rat race and jumping into crazines, relaxing the norms and trying new things. It is so refreshing, I always return home more happy and enthusiastic about life. And yes, people eat like t…

What drugs are associated with the psytrance culture? I'm guessing LSD and psilocybin, but are there other more niche ones that are common?

I'd guess MDMA would be the most common.

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Post by brokenmachine »

davedx wrote: post #45
codeulike wrote: post #25

Well I for one think Electronic Music has too many sub-genres. Like if you change the timing of the highhat or the type of synth you're using it catapults you into a different genre. Whats that all about? Why does it need to be so segmented?

Electronic music "sub-genres" are usually BS, in my experience most producers don't go "ok, today I'm going to make some fullon Israeli south-Goa psytrance" (or retroactively label their music like this). It's just that there's a small section of fans who devote their time to obsessively trying to categorize and label every single track, making up new genres and sub-genres as they go. Drum'n'bass has the same issue..…

They can be useful though.

eg when I discovered from Wikipedia that the genre that Knife Party are in was called "Complextro", I was able to quickly discover other music that I enjoyed from the same genre.

Before I found that magic word, I had no way to find those other acts.

Of course, they're also listed as electro house, drumstep, and dubstep, so clearly they cross sub-genres. Anyway, I did manage to find some other music that I liked so the sub-genre'ing helped me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knife_Party

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Post by KitDuncan »

craigzucchini wrote: post #172
emptyfile wrote: post #73

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Very similar experience. TBH after a few festivals it has gotten stale to me and I haven't been in a few years, but the experience of the first one which got me into the rave scene in general is one of my most treasured memories. The people are amazing and friendly, even tough their beliefs are mostly batshit insane. The vibe is so much better than any other festivals (and no trash! clean nature!). Music wise I've al…

While I haven't been, this is something I find tricky to reconcile, but appreciate that I'm not the only one. My main interest would be the super large scale hardstyle festivals— which I feel might be easier to enjoy relatively sober and feels a bit less granola—but many friends I grew up with go to Shambhala. It seems like a fun time, beautiful scenery, art, music and so on. But it seems like as they've been abusing…

I loved that people on psytrance festivals seemed to eat more vegan food than average. Such a breath of fresh air to not see everyone stuffing their faces with meat 24/7

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Post by hutzlibu »

CapricornNoble wrote: post #147
hutzlibu wrote: post #65

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I guess that is why I am not too much into electronic dance music(at least not those types you mentioned), as it is too predicitable and therefore booring to me. I like music to be wild and when I am in the flow, I feel a beat coming, even if it is out of "order". But why does it need a label to inform dancers of a genre change? You just feel the beat and move to it, no?

Do you listen to reggae or dancehall? I have friends who are reggae DJs and joined them for an event in Yokohama years ago.....12 hours and 2 nightclubs later I was sick of reggae lol.....it's just too chaotic for me. I love EDM because I feel I can settle into a "groove" and coast along with the music indefinitely, like riding a wind. But reggae is the total opposite, constantly changing. You might wanna check it ou…

Sure, I love reggae ... and with reggae, you also can get into the "groove".

With dancehall, ragga, etc. this is much harder, yes. "Booolah!!" (something they do in dancehall, a loud sound, breaking the tune and restarting the beat. Breaks groove of dancing by definition)

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Post by ssijak »

mushtar wrote: post #209
ssijak wrote: post #23

I have just returned from one psytrance festival. I like to go there, not mainly for the music (which I like mostly), but for the atmosphere. Meeting all kind of different people and getting out from the usual "reality" and norms and rat race and jumping into crazines, relaxing the norms and trying new things. It is so refreshing, I always return home more happy and enthusiastic about life. And yes, people eat like t…

What drugs are associated with the psytrance culture? I'm guessing LSD and psilocybin, but are there other more niche ones that are common?

Psychedelics and amphetamines are in a very large majority (not taking into account weed which is very common with anyone who does any drug). But people do all kind of drugs in some percent. For example I had one friend who once per year took heroin, but only once. He has a very normal and responsible job and a career.

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Post by piva00 »

narag wrote: post #208
piva00 wrote: post #182

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Sure! One thing that I love about the music producing/synth community is that we all love to share :) I have dedicated myself to use only hardware for a while, working on a computer for 8+ hours a day really puts me off on being creative on it so I went to the only-hardware route. With that said, my current setup is: * Roland TR-8S for the drums, recreations of the classic drum machines (TR-606, 707, 808, 909, etc.)…

Thank you very much, that looks impressive. I'm looking for professional drum sound, but honestly can't justify the price of the TR-8S, hoped that there's some sample set that I could use from software. Anyway it's useful to me as a reference. Have you some music published?

For drum samples I recommend to check out the packs from Samples From Mars[0], they are very thorough in how they sample hardware equipment and real music lovers that use most of the revenue to buy more gear to create new packs.

I haven't published anything yet as I don't feel comfortable with my creations, haha, most of the fun I have now is playing live with a friend or jamming by myself and recording 30-90 minutes sessions, mostly to track my own improvement. I hope I can publish something in the next year or so.

P.S.: I'm linking their "All Products From Mars" combo pack so you can dig into each one individually to check them out.

[0] https://samplesfrommars.com/products/all-products-from-mars

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Post by narag »

piva00 wrote: post #216
narag wrote: post #208

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Thank you very much, that looks impressive. I'm looking for professional drum sound, but honestly can't justify the price of the TR-8S, hoped that there's some sample set that I could use from software. Anyway it's useful to me as a reference. Have you some music published?

For drum samples I recommend to check out the packs from Samples From Mars[0], they are very thorough in how they sample hardware equipment and real music lovers that use most of the revenue to buy more gear to create new packs. I haven't published anything yet as I don't feel comfortable with my creations, haha, most of the fun I have now is playing live with a friend or jamming by myself and recording 30-90 minutes…

Again, thank you and good luck.

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Post by bgeeek »

stef25 wrote: post #145
weavie wrote: post #11

Wow. I'm old enough to remember when it was just goa trance. And then towards the end of the 90's the kicks became more pronounced and the melodies were dropped in favour of more psychedelic soundscapes. From that it seemed the genre split into daytime trance that was brighter and more uplifting and nighttime that was darker and more psychedelic. As a dj, people would grumble at you if you played daytime trance at ni…

Total Eclipse, Infinity Project ... I think this was the first goatrance cd I bought mid 90s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KccBLlyOmE And then all the Distance to Goa compilations. And let's not forget this stomper https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrNMGvd9bY

Crikey, that reminds me of the '90s! Thanks :)

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Post by JakeTheAndroid »

H1Supreme wrote: post #95
hutzlibu wrote: post #65

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I guess that is why I am not too much into electronic dance music(at least not those types you mentioned), as it is too predicitable and therefore booring to me. I like music to be wild and when I am in the flow, I feel a beat coming, even if it is out of "order". But why does it need a label to inform dancers of a genre change? You just feel the beat and move to it, no?

Most western music is 4/4 (or some derivative) time signature based, and quite predictable. Especially anything that is remotely popular. Mind sharing some of the acts/bands you like?

If you're looking for non 4/4 music, the whole of prog metal is basically open to you.

Animals as Leaders, Intervals, Plini, Polyphia etc are all instrumental.

Periphery, Monuments, Tesseract, Dream Theater, Volumes, Born of Osiris, Jason Richardson, The Contortionist etc span a wide variety of sounds, and all implement unique time signatures.

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