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Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Re: Apple Reports Declining Profits and Slowing Growth Again

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Post by SkyMarshal »

MaysonL wrote: post #8

And the stock increased over 4% in after-hours trading, as increases in non-iPhone hardware sales and services overcame the decrease in iPhone sales. Earnings per share slightly beat the consensus forecast. An interesting quote from Cook in the press release: "The balance of calendar 2019 will be an exciting period, with major launches on all of our platforms, new services and several new products"

>The balance of calendar 2019 will be an exciting period, with major launches on all of our platforms, new services and several new products"

A nitpick, but I wish people in business would diversify their vocabulary and learn to use words other than "exciting" to describe everything. Calling something exciting does not make it so. Show why it's exciting, don't just claim that it is.

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Post by outworlder »

vbezhenar wrote: post #182
rimliu wrote: post #144

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I could not care less about touch bar either way, but I would not willingly go back to touch id from face id.

What's wrong with touch id? I never used face id, but fingerprint sensor on iPhone 8 is good. It unlocks at the same time I'm pressing on button, so most of the time I don't notice it at all. And I almost never getting false negatives. I can't imagine how face id might be better, but I can imagine how it can be worse.

There's nothing _wrong_ with touch ID. It's just that FaceID is way better. It is faster and more seamless, it can work even if you are wearing gloves.

Plus, it lets the phone not display sensitive notification details until you are the one looking at the screen(with attention detection on, the default, you have to be really looking at it), only then it will display the details(including actual messages, depending on how it's configured). This is great in many scenarios.

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Post by scarface74 »

Retric wrote: post #181
scarface74 wrote: post #138

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Like what?

Camera tech seems to be an obvious choice. But, they could go as far out there as doing drug research. Apple is a giant multinational corporation, they could get into any market.

Drug research? Really? There is no part of Apple that is optimized for drug research. Even with the iPhone, they already had an OS that was the basis for it.

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Post by capkutay »

MaysonL wrote: post #8

And the stock increased over 4% in after-hours trading, as increases in non-iPhone hardware sales and services overcame the decrease in iPhone sales. Earnings per share slightly beat the consensus forecast. An interesting quote from Cook in the press release: "The balance of calendar 2019 will be an exciting period, with major launches on all of our platforms, new services and several new products"

AAPL is still undervalued compared to stocks like AMZN. Apple's P/E of 17 is amazing compared to Amazons 78. I'm not really sure why their stock isn't traded with the same enthusiasm that other tech companies see.

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Post by outworlder »

eeeeeeeeeeeee wrote: post #191
vannevar wrote: post #93

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Still, the company hasn't released an innovative hardware product since 2008. That's a long time for them. If Apple can't innovate anymore, regardless of whether they have continued financial success, are they still really Apple?

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The Apple II. The original Mac. The iPod. The iPhone. Just to name the heavy hitters.

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Post by vannevar »

dkonofalski wrote: post #206
vannevar wrote: post #130

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True, but the Microsoft Surface came three years before the Pro. And even if the iPad Pro were dominant, the iPhone and iPad are so closely related as products that counting the iPad 'innovation' is double-dipping a bit.

That's like saying that a bathtub and a swimming pool are the same thing because they both hold water.

No, I'm not suggesting they're the same thing. But size alone is not innovation, in swimming pools or iPads. There just isn't enough distinction to say that the iPad is innovative compared to the iPhone. Internally, in fact, the iPad came before the iPhone, and inspired it.

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Post by megaremote »

scarface74 wrote: post #160
augustk wrote: post #128

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Sooner or later you will have to buy a new device due to planned obsolescence, i.e. when (security) updates are no longer released. But then you can of course install a free operating system instead.

In the case of iOS devices, Apple just released a series of patches for devices back to the iPhone 4s that was introduced in 2011.

And they only just stopped supporting 2009 imacs.

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Post by appleiigs »

tptacek wrote: post #154
gonational wrote: post #121

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If one of these major launches is a MacBook Pro with the same (or better) specs (esp video graphics) as their latest MacBook Pro, but without a TouchBar, they will get at least $2,500 from me. If one of these major launches is an iPhone X-like phone with a thumbprint reader (home button or otherwise), they will get at least another $1,000 from me.

The entire Mac platform is less than 10% of their revenue, for what it's worth.

Reducing from the 10% because of broken keyboards etc. is still not OK. I bet wallstreet would react if Apple lost 5% of revenue.

Alternatively, maybe Macs would increase from 10% to 15% if the product wasn't broken and over-priced. Maybe it would be 20% or 25% if Apple could cross-sell/convert those iPhone sales to Mac sales.

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