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Lambda School fined $75k by CA for operating without state approval [pdf]

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These things happen when you're just getting starting its normal we live and learn. Just hoping they start a slightly more flexible cohort for people who are working and looking for the next promotion

What would we need to change about our part-time classes to make it accessible to you?

Something I noticed for part-time classes is that they are mostly 6pm-9pm PST. That becomes 9pm-12am on the East Coast, where I live. That's not feasible if you're also working a 9-5 job; it's signing up to be sleep deprived for 18 months. The science on the negative health effects of chronic sleep deprivation being extremely clear, I'd never sign up for that.

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The first draft they send highlighted grammar errors with a red pencil. After that I'm sure it's just stacking up somewhere. It's a waste for sure, but changing the system is a long process.

What I've learned is to always include a few token spelling and grammar errors in the first draft of anything so reviewers feel like they have done their job. /s

I used to run a pizzaria and the health inspector would stick around for ages, because he couldn't find anything to site me for. I combed through the specs and found something to keep him happy. It turns out to be a minor NY health code violation to store clothing on the same storage unit as food. So I attached a coat rack to the shelf that held sealed canned good. Problem solved.

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This is distasteful coming from the founder of this institution.

I don't read his comment as intended to be demeaning, but more a statement of fact. And it reads true to me. I have no skin in the game, but I follow a lot of the bootcamp-related discussions online, and what he said sounds exactly right to me. There are a ton of people who hear the idea of an ISA and say "so we're bringing back slavery?? thanks SV geniuses!!", and they seem to disproportionately come from the late s…

I didn’t mean for it to be distasteful but can see how it came off that way.

I read through the poster’s comments and it became clear we’re not going to agree based on general economic frame of reference.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

What would we need to change about our part-time classes to make it accessible to you?

Something I noticed for part-time classes is that they are mostly 6pm-9pm PST. That becomes 9pm-12am on the East Coast, where I live. That's not feasible if you're also working a 9-5 job; it's signing up to be sleep deprived for 18 months. The science on the negative health effects of chronic sleep deprivation being extremely clear, I'd never sign up for that.

We alternate time zones, so sometimes it’s e.g. 6-9 Eastern.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Something I noticed for part-time classes is that they are mostly 6pm-9pm PST. That becomes 9pm-12am on the East Coast, where I live. That's not feasible if you're also working a 9-5 job; it's signing up to be sleep deprived for 18 months. The science on the negative health effects of chronic sleep deprivation being extremely clear, I'd never sign up for that.

We alternate time zones, so sometimes it’s e.g. 6-9 Eastern.

Might be worth mentioning somewhere near the schedules; I only saw one 4-7 PST (so 7-10 EST) full stack part time course in the upcoming courses list after checking all of the current upcoming schedules. Every other upcoming part-time course currently listed is 6-9 PST. It would be easier to come away from that thinking this is really only for West Coast students.

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After reading this thread and considering it, the regulations seem fine, but lack of consistency between states seems to be a large pain-pont. I realize California isn't just "any" state but needing to seek unique approval from up to all 50 states just to run an online school seems like a really high (and expensive) bar. It would be nice if more states cooperated on things like this. Then you seek approval from the c…

It looks like the regulation only applies if you have a physical building in California. Since Lambda school is based in California, they have to abide by the law. You don't need all 50 states approval to run an online school, but you will need the approval of the state that you are actually in.

Until another state passes a law saying you need to follow their regulations regardless of whether you have a building in the state as long as you're operating there.

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Something very similar happened to Origin Code Academy in San Diego. I believe their situation is that one of the state bodies told them they would be exempt from a certain type of tax. Once they registered and were approved, they were then asked to pay their back taxes which they of course didn't have saved up.

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I mean, is a university education not a sort of scam? They are giving people degrees that cost far too much to justify the kind of job you'll get coming out.

> I mean, is a university education not a sort of scam? Whether or not "college education" in general is "a scam" can be debated for sure. But we aren't talking about "college education" - imagine paying for "college education" but it's a scam so you end up with less money and no education.

I think komali2 was saying that's what happens right now — you end up with less than no money and no meaningful education.

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Looking at the text of the fine, you can't charge money to teach people things ("offer education" in their parlence) in a physical location without state approval. Could that be any more broad? Education is often just verbal and written communication between people. Seems like a first amendment violation.

So would private tutoring be technically illegal in CA?

If you have a physical location and don't have state approval, yes.
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