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Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by adam_ellsworth »

piyush_soni wrote: post #183
smt88 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just use Firefox with uBlock Origin on all my devices. Better blocking than Brave and no concerns about future monetization.

I'm currently using Firefox on all devices as my primary browser, but there is a single feature that I've gotten used to in Chrom* browsers on mobile - 'pull down to refresh' - that looks indispensable to me, and I'm planning to move to Brave on mobile just because of that (already replaced Chrome with Brave on Desktop as my secondary browser). Yes, there are add-ons to do that on mobile too, but they are all inconsi…

Also, for developers, you can't inspect web-socket frames natively in FF yet, you have to use an extension.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by iamnotacrook »

justsee wrote: post #94
robbrown451 wrote: post #41

I'm impressed with Brave. I've started using it as my primary browser (after a couple false starts a year or so ago) and it has all the best of Chrome without the worst. There is controversy about how Brave does stuff, and I agree there is some sketchy stuff they are doing (replacing ads with their own). I'm glad they are giving us a choice, though, and exploring different options for sites being able to makes some m…

Switched from Firefox to Brave in the last year across devices and not looking back (though I do miss containers!). Blocking ads and trackers by default is pretty much essential in 2019. The myth about ad replacement doesn't seem to want to die though! There is no ad replacement, though the roadmap says at some time in the future publishers who opt-in will have the option to have their ad-slots filled by Brave's priv…

"Blocking ads and trackers by default is pretty much essential in 2019."

How is it better than a choice of plug-ins to block them?

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by pgl »

glangdale wrote: post #188

It's interesting to see block list creators more or less reinventing all the tricks that network-security regex implementation people invented 10-20 years ago. One wonders whether they might do better picking up an off-the-shelf regex implementation (e.g. our own Hyperscan, or for those who must must must have something in Rust, the engine from ripgrep, which I believe is just called "regex" :-) ).

Hey, some of those block list creators are also network-security people from 10-20 years ago. :)

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by mclehman »

rjf72 wrote: post #186
rsj_hn wrote: post #176

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Recently I've had terrible performance issues with chrome. Freezes, crashes, and really long delays, as well as significant memory usage. I switched to Brave, but it was worse. Safari, by contrast, has been amazingly fast and responsive.

I've had quite the opposite experience there. I eventually settled on Brave because of my browsing habits. In particular I tend to have several windows of a browser open with dozens of tabs a piece and tend to rarely reboot my machine. Capping all this off is that I enjoy playing chess, which relies on millisecond responsivity. This [1] is a screen cap of the current performance usage of Brave. It's completely neglig…

That may be a Firefox on Windows issue (not that it helps you in this case). I regularly have ~1000 tabs open in Firefox on Linux with no issues (related to tabs and performance, anyway).

The only related issue for me recently was a failure to restore a session after Firefox forced a restart for an update. That's the behavior that chases me back to Brave on other systems (where it's not as easy to `tabs.sh > current_tabs` just in case).

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by reshie »

paulcarroty wrote: post #204

Brave isn't a choice for me 'cause Google can easily kill all Chrome clones in one funny day. Also Brave monetization looks very tricky.

unless they fork from original open source. google can stop developing it but they can not stop others from continuing from where they left off from that point. i don't know any thing about brave but, chromium is differrent from chrome.

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by iamnotacrook »

beatgammit wrote: post #73
oldwinebottles wrote: post #44

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Too freaking slow.

Have you tried it recently? It has gotten a lot faster, so much so that some people say it's faster than Chrome in many cases. Personally, I find it more than adequate, and I agree with their mission a lot more than the other browser vendors.

I use Firefox everywhere. I tried Chrome recently and it feels a lot faster, but in the end the ability to block ads and trackers (everywhere, including mobile which is where I do most of my browsing) is more important than a bit of speed. If Firefox is fast enough, then faster is pointless. But as can be seen in this thread, some people believe it's their duty to look at ads so for them the extra speed is probably a nice bonus (and perhaps partially compensates for the extra work their browser is doing).

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by intsunny »

lenkite wrote: post #210
smt88 wrote: post #123

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I just use Firefox with uBlock Origin on all my devices. Better blocking than Brave and no concerns about future monetization.

Firefox needs to respect the OS certificate store instead of using its own. Without it client-cert authenticated sites cannot be accessed. IT admins usually have policies on Windows and MacOS that prevent export of client cert+priv key.

I disagree.

OS certificate stores often come with the political baggage of the OS manufacturer. When a Chinese Gov't CA was found to have engaged in fraudulent behavior [0] Google and Firefox were quick to revoke/remove the CA cert from their products. Apple and Microsoft did not do the same, likely because they do not want to upset the Chinese Gov't. (IIRC Iphone users cannot even manually revoke CA's on their own phones.)

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/China_Internet_Network_Informa...

Re: Brave Improves Its Ad-Blocker Performance with New Engine in Rust

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Post by lordgrenville »

piyush_soni wrote: post #183
smt88 wrote: post #123

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just use Firefox with uBlock Origin on all my devices. Better blocking than Brave and no concerns about future monetization.

I'm currently using Firefox on all devices as my primary browser, but there is a single feature that I've gotten used to in Chrom* browsers on mobile - 'pull down to refresh' - that looks indispensable to me, and I'm planning to move to Brave on mobile just because of that (already replaced Chrome with Brave on Desktop as my secondary browser). Yes, there are add-ons to do that on mobile too, but they are all inconsi…

I'm not a mobile dev so maybe this is a naive question, but wouldn't this be pretty easy for FF to add?
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