Maine passes bill to prevent ISPs from selling browsing data without consent

Post by chii » Sat, Jun 01, 2019, 5:19 AM UTC

darawk wrote: post #185

jhayward wrote: post #165

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a user who understands and consents to that request They can't really consent, because no-one truly understands what it is that they are agreeing to. It is simply not possible to have informed consent about the use, re-sale, re-combination, re-identification, long-term storage, profiling, credit/employment/health/housing impacts, etc. It's not possible to consent because you can't tell what you are giving away a…

> They can't really consent, because no-one truly understands what it is that they are agreeing to. That is a supposition of yours. I'm pretty confident that I understand what i'm agreeing to. And I agree to it.

Post by Bombthecat » Sat, Jun 01, 2019, 6:01 AM UTC

malloreon wrote: post #35

I look forward to the day when selling user's data requires the user's opt-in every single time a third party wants to access that data. No more "yes to all" or allowing blanket usage in TOS/EULAs. People who use apps that sell their data should be bombarded with requests to use that data each and every single time, until they either decide the app isn't worth it or the app decides they should try a different busines…

Post by sagebird » Sat, Jun 01, 2019, 10:28 AM UTC

ssss11 wrote: post #155

mrguyorama wrote: post #11

I couldn't find links to the actual bill anywhere so I tracked it down: http://legislature.maine.gov/LawMakerWeb/summary.asp?ID=2800... The summary: "This bill prohibits a provider of broadband Internet access service from using, disclosing, selling or permitting access to customer personal information unless the customer expressly consents to that use, disclosure, sale or access. The bill provides other exceptions u…

Won’t the customer consent just become a line in the T&C’s and unless you accept it you can’t use their service? This would be a similar situation to the cookie disclaimers.

Post by voxic11 » Sat, Jun 01, 2019, 3:45 PM UTC

altfredd wrote: post #196

ssalka wrote: post #159

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't this covered by: > The bill prohibits a provider from refusing to serve a customer...if the customer...does not consent to the use, disclosure, sale or access [of their data]. ?

> The bill prohibits a provider Nobody cares, what provider does. What matters is whether or not you sign a damn consent form. Suppose, that there is a popular mobile App, written by Zhang Li Ltd. The App allows you to buy travel tickets, receive discounts in local stores and upload contents of your address book to it's servers. After a while you notice, that everyone uses it. Your local store no longer sells large a…

Post by voxic11 » Sat, Jun 01, 2019, 3:46 PM UTC

altfredd wrote: post #193

mrguyorama wrote: post #11

I couldn't find links to the actual bill anywhere so I tracked it down: http://legislature.maine.gov/LawMakerWeb/summary.asp?ID=2800... The summary: "This bill prohibits a provider of broadband Internet access service from using, disclosing, selling or permitting access to customer personal information unless the customer expressly consents to that use, disclosure, sale or access. The bill provides other exceptions u…

This law sound like it was written by data brokers. It does nothing at best and legitimizes corrupt practices at worst. WTF is "consent" doing here? Why would ISP ever need to sell someone's data in order to operate? Do they also plan to explicitly prohibit ISPs from torturing customers and selling their organs? From selling illegal drugs to minors? Dear state of Maine, I too would like to waive all my legal liabilit…