Why I'm still using jQuery

Post by ape4 » Mon, May 27, 2019, 7:50 PM UTC

dentemple wrote: post #186

ape4 wrote: post #130

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+ can concatenate strings. So I guess there is an implied: 0 + in there to make it in integer mode.

There's no implication involved. It's the unary operator, and it performs the type conversion exactly as specced.

Post by 52-6F-62 » Mon, May 27, 2019, 7:55 PM UTC

jrandm wrote: post #204

52-6F-62 wrote: post #155

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There are still more idiomatic methods you can use, ie: [...document.querySelectorAll(selector)].filter(filterFn);

That's a significantly newer syntax, so I wouldn't say it's "more idiomatic" than explicitly referencing the original function on the prototype (which is idiomatic to JS) and was the way to do it until the spread proposal, Array.from, and similar additions, what, ~5 years ago? If anything isn't that code _less_ idiomatic in that it's less specific to JS and more of a generic operation?

Post by noir_lord » Mon, May 27, 2019, 8:24 PM UTC

pier25 wrote: post #143

To give you an idea where I come from... I started doing front end in the late 90s, and for the past 5 or so years I've been mostly doing SPAs with Vue, React, Inferno, and Angular. I'm done with SPAs and the whole modern front end workflow. If there was a solid benefit to a SPA it would make sense to endure all the complex development, ever changing ecosystem, etc, but in the vast majority of cases there is no benef…

Post by andrei_says_ » Mon, May 27, 2019, 9:59 PM UTC

candu wrote: post #125

sgift wrote: post #33

> In my experience server-side generated templates lightly sprinkled with “progressive enhancement”-style JavaScript are still the best way to do that. Those apps are easier to develop, tend to be faster, tend to have fewer bugs, and your laptop’s fan won’t wake the neighbours. Thanks for that part. Really. A heartfelt thank you. Every time I see another "hey, I only want to show you text, but for some reason I thoug…

This is the part that often gets forgotten in these discussions: it shouldn't be "SPA for everything" vs. "vanilla HTML / CSS / JS for everything"; rather, we should be using the most appropriate set of tools for the job. I've worked on simple static sites, for which I typically lean more on vanilla HTML / CSS with a sprinkling of JS as recommended here. I've also worked on heavy-lifting applications, for which the l…

Post by austincheney » Mon, May 27, 2019, 10:26 PM UTC

skizm wrote: post #217

austincheney wrote: post #194

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So you are the primary end user of everything you write in JavaScript? I think you are deliberately being hyperbolic to justify ignoring micro improvements to end user concerns for a self-serving convenience.

I realize you're just being argumentative, but whatever. As a programmer you should definitely be avoiding micro improvements until you absolutely need them. Premature optimization is the root of all evil. No sense in wasting development time with something that is currently not a problem.