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CBS censors a ‘Good Fight’ segment whose topic was Chinese censorship

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So US media censors US content, containing bits about China censors, due to financial and other unknown reasons, but when it comes to US happenings, good and bad, they want and have complete freedom of press and speech. Oh, the irony.

Add to that the fact that the NYT won’t let me read the story because my browser is in private mode, but regularly runs features about the Chinese surveillance state.

The article loads fine for me in private mode.

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It's not Assange's fault if the truth caused opinions to sway.

>It's not Assange's fault if the selectively-revealed truth caused opinions to sway due to his editorial influence .

Thats fair, but he's a rank amateur at that compared to many major news organisations. At one point the BBC had it down to a fine art, but these days they seem to be getting a lot more clumsy.

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It's a bit telling when a media giant like CBS can't strike a happy medium by you know - both not censoring it in the US and censoring it in china - instead, choosing to censor the whole thing outright on the entire platform. It's almost like all these American companies are moving en masse to do business in China with the sole purpose of increasing profits every single quarter, irrespective of (and arguably, now enc…

The communists got one thing right. We really will sell them the rope they use to hang us.

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Assuming we are taking a US centric view here, I feel just the opposite: that speech has scarcely ever been so free. It was less than a decade ago that the U.S. military had a policy literally called "Don't Ask, Don't Tell". It was only fifty years ago that Martin Luther King Jr. was being investigated by the FBI, for speech that is now broadly considered necessary. About 100 years ago, check out the Sedition Act of…

"Don't ask don't tell" wasn't an attempt at censorship. In fact, when it was introduced by the Clinton administration it was hailed by LGBT groups because it allowed gay people to serve in the military. People have forgotten the context in which Don't Ask Don't Tell was created. Today people assume it was some evil, presumably Republican, plan to keep gay people down. It was seen as quite the opposite when it first s…

When folks from the LGBT community were in discussions about family life and military duty... these folks couldn't say a word, lest they be dishonorably discharged from the military and possibly be charged with a crime. Folks going to boot camp around '97/'98 were told that oral and/or anal sex were grounds for a sodomy charge, after all.

Yes, it was a step in the right direction, but folks still couldn't realistically be open about their love life if you were not in a more traditional relationship. Regardless of intent, it was still censorship.

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I feel like free speech has never been under such attack. Culturally, we don't care about it, we find offensive content more offensive than censorship of offensive content. Politically, they can censor you completely if they want to by hitting you with an NSL. EFF says that happens 60 times a day. The most hard hitting journalist in the west, Julian Assange, was just put in jail. I'm scared about the future. It's not…

The fact that hundreds of thousands of Muslims are put into concentration camps and the world does nothing is amazing. I think that is how bad the world wants cheap stuff.

Notably, this was a part of the episode where the cartoon was censored.

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A journalist is a person who collects, writes, or distributes news or other current information to the public. [1] Check. You can argue about whether his style is commendable or not (for codes of conduct see [2]), but that does not change the fact that he is a journalist . [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalist [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Journalism_ethics_and_standard...

I reject your Wikipedia links as authoritative sources on what constitutes a journalist as well as your contention that he's doing anything other than dumping documents (selectively).

Every outlet, from the New York Times to Fox News to Slate selectively front-pages certain leaks and stories while de-emphasizing and outright ignoring others. Does that make them not-journalists too?

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Failure to walk away from the show over this has lost the writers any moral high ground they might have once held.

The fundamental principle of Hollywood: there's no such thing as bad publicity.

I had never even heard of this show until today, and it sounds like something I would really enjoy.

On the flip side I do not want to give CBS any money as a result of this censorship

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Julian Assange is a journalist? Not sure I agree with that labeling.

Not calling Assange a journalist does a great deal of unwarranted justice to the plenty clickbait bloggers, who also happen to be labelled as journalists.

You can be a shit journalist and still be a journalist. If I push a csv to a GitHub repo does that make me a journalists? I think this is the semantics posters are trying to highlight.

A publisher, maybe. But I'm squarely in the 'not a journalist' camp.

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It's a bit telling when a media giant like CBS can't strike a happy medium by you know - both not censoring it in the US and censoring it in china - instead, choosing to censor the whole thing outright on the entire platform. It's almost like all these American companies are moving en masse to do business in China with the sole purpose of increasing profits every single quarter, irrespective of (and arguably, now enc…

CBS said "This is the creative solution that we agreed upon with the producers". I have been wondering if the producers insisted that the segment be censored in all regions so that everyone would know about it. Otherwise Americans would never know about the censorship.

If the segment was about Chinese censorship, surely the best way for Americans to learn about Chinese censorship would be to air it?

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I thought he was at one point, but now it's sadly obvious he's an intelligence asset. He was literally an employee of Russian state media, and I have yet to see him publish anything that would embarrass Russia.

The last free press of Novaya Gazeta received plenty and published plenty. Their journalists have been murdered left and right, often leading back to Kreml. Why do people keep saying they haven't published anything on Russia? It's simply not truth and I see that being said over and over again.

I believe you are conflating Assanges lack of publication of Russian material with Navoya Gazeta.
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