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Re: Explaining Sex Rate Changes

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Post by michaelmrose »

abledon wrote: post #202
michaelmrose wrote: post #197

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There is so many things wrong with this statement man where to start. Laws are fundamentally enforced by ya know force. Taxes are enforced by taking your money by force, taking your freedom by force if you disagree strenuously enough, and taking your life if you fail to submit to losing your freedom. You can't legally force someone to associate with others because we put that in the constitution centuries ago. It's a…

Thanks for your thoughtful reply — I was thinking more along the lines of ‘schedule 4-7 events through the year’ claim them on your tax return for an extra bonus or something . Maybe the word enforce was too strong — that’s why I’m not a lawyer lol

A government incentive is paid for out of tax payers pockets. It would literally mean taking money out of my pocket, spending most of it on social events, and then giving me the minority of it back.

Opting out would mean I was paying for other peoples parties when I can barely at this point cover medical expenses.

This remains a terrible idea.

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Post by michaelmrose »

abledon wrote: post #135
RandomInteger4 wrote: post #128

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Sounds like something out of Nazi Germany. I'm all for people engaging with the community, but enforced?

"dude F that S *, I'm staying home, rolling a bunch of fat ones, and grinding on my level 80 Warlock, then logging on to grind up my PathOfExile smurf" (repeat loop for next 40 years) -- lots of people who are no way voluntarily going to break their comfortable cocoon created by addictive gaming & drugs.

I've been together with my wife for 18 years, married for 14 and I met her playing the original Everquest.

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Post by abledon »

baroffoos wrote: post #173
abledon wrote: post #154

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‘What a horrible idea — interacting with other humans face to face - I’d be so uncomfortable’. I see it as a weak social muscle that hasn’t had a lot of workout time and is leaning on a crutch of modern lifestyle staying indoors on screen time. Just like how gradual exercise will make someone stronger , lose weight and take a burden off of the public healthcare system — social exercise will benefit society as well in…

Mandatory bullshit events forced on people who don't want to be there and then likely some stupid process to prove to the government that you attended the event is a horrible idea. If you want to encourage face to face events then you need to transform urban spaces to be more walkable and create more public spaces people actually want to hang out at. If I go outside I could walk around for hours and the only people I…

I think having 50 people meet up at a community center to go volunteer is way more feasible than redesigning urban infrastructure.

I agree forcing is not nice but tell that to all the children who don’t want to go to school haha

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Post by enraged_camel »

irrational wrote: post #32

>It also won’t do to point to changes over this time period that effected all ages and genders similarly, such as obesity, porn, video games, social media, dating apps, and wariness re harassment claims. I think this is wrong. I don't believe these things effect all ages and genders similarly. For instance, I think we would find that the rate of young men playing video games and watching porn are much higher than for…

>>For instance, I think we would find that the rate of young men playing video games and watching porn are much higher than for young women. I'm not saying that young women don't do these things, but I don't believe these things are engaged in at the same rates as young men.

I don't know about porn, but data strongly disagrees with this when it comes to gaming.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_and_video_games#Demograp...

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Post by simonh »

scotty79 wrote: post #206
solotronics wrote: post #179

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This is the whole reason monogamy was standardized. It is a stabilizing force in society and creates equality instead of a winner take all situation. Without monogamy you end up with a small number of men having the attention of the majority of women. This causes huge problems, with the loosers being the average and below average men and women. Certain things about how society evolved to function are there for a reas…

In other places of the world polygamy was standardised. And wide spread religiously backed monogamy stabilisation didn't save us from two world wars.

The stabilising effect of monogamy isn't to prevent wars between nations and societies, it's to manage violence and conflict within a society. It works too and is not just a small effect. Of the 20 most unstable countries in the world, all 20 are very to somewhat polygamous[0].

[0]https://medium.economist.com/big-love-and-big-war-exploring-...

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Post by saagarjha »

novia wrote: post #97
anonytrary wrote: post #93

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I don't mean to belittle your decision to flag the article, but the flagging button is not a downvote button, and it is not there to hide things we personally disagree with. Flagging an article because it does not corroborate your personal experiences is somewhat irresponsible, especially for this community. There needs to be a better reason for flagging an article other than "my single data point says otherwise".

Hacker News Guidelines What to Submit On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity. Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. Videos of pratfalls or disasters, or cut…

> Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups.

> Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon.

I feel like this is on-topic? I feel that the flag button is not there for "I found this uninteresting", because at any given time a significant portion of the articles on the front page are uninteresting to me. I don't go around flagging those because I'm sure others do find it interesting and it's possible to have a valid discussion about it without devolving into flamewars.

> See for example the 2014 Isla Vista massacre.

FWIW, this was not covered by Hacker News.

Re: Explaining Sex Rate Changes

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Post by michaelmrose »

manfredo wrote: post #18

My napkin paper theory is that for nonmarital* sex the internet has made it easier for people to find partners, with the overall effect that the bottom ~1/3 of men cannot find partners. Generally women are more selective than men when it comes to casual sex, and desirable men are usually willing to have sex with multiple partners. I recall studies that found that the top 20% of men on dating platforms account for 80%…

If men in the bottom 20% want sex they can take steps to increase their position including losing weight, hitting the gym, working on getting a better paid job.

Alternatively they can offer a greater degree of commitment to female bottom 20%ers who presumably ALSO aren't getting a lot of casual interaction.

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Post by dang »

anonytrary wrote: post #89
ronnier wrote: post #75

Why are articles like these yanked so quickly from the front page of HN?

Because they lead to controversial comments which get flagged at a higher rate and either one or both of the following are true: 1. The algorithm is designed to automatically bump threads down when the number of flagged comments exceeds a certain amount or rate. 2. The moderators want to simplify their moderation duties and manually bump the post down to lower the comment flux.

We don't do #2. We do downweight flamewar threads, i.e. threads in which people aren't following the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html.

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Post by snrji »

black-tea wrote: post #129

It's interesting that every comment here is now on board with what groups like "incels" and "MRAs" been saying for years . These groups are often called "hate groups", but now more and more stats are coming out it seems more people agree with them (I have always agreed with them, by the way). Nobody has yet mentioned another potentially large driver, though. That is the abundance of Internet porn that is available fr…

They are considered hate groups because they admittedly hate women. Their diagnosis could be right, though.
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