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Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by aetherson »

rangersanger wrote: post #126
malvosenior wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These activists will find your place of employment and take it up with them. You can ignore Twitter but they will find you.

Sure, but that's been going on forever. There's a difference between activists that are motivated enough to show up at your workplace, and those who are willing to daylights out of you.

I think that you're misunderstanding your parent, who is not, to my reading, saying that people will show up at your work and beat you up or yell at you, but rather that they will campaign to get you fired.

For example, Scott Alexander of Slate Star Codex mentioned in a recent post that people had called his employer and tried to get him fired because of the comments of people on his blog and the subreddit associated with it. (And he blogs pseudonymously, for whatever it's worth).

Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by nathan_long »

barry-cotter wrote: post #205
nathan_long wrote: post #119

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What, genetically, is a race?

One plausible candidate is which continent a particular individual’s ancestors came from. That’s something that can be tested for with relative ease. > Ancestry informative marker sets for determining continental origin and admixture proportions in common populations in America > ... A comprehensive set of 128 AIMs and subsets as small as 24 AIMs are shown to be useful tools for ascertaining the origin of subjects fr…

A genetic test to see whether someone has ancestry from Melenasia or Sudan or Scotland is likely to give a different result than casual visual classification. The latter is what we commonly call "race".

Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by SamReidHughes »

bryanlarsen wrote: post #150
zzocn wrote: post #131

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Whether you are white or black or have epicanthic fold or stuff like that is 100% encoded in your genes. Someone saying "in terms of IQ, asians > whites > blacks", which is easily provable, will get in big trouble.

There is significantly more genetic variety in the single black "race" than all others put together. You could try dividing blacks into three or twelve different races but those lines are quite difficult to draw. Any statement which considers black a single race and white and Oriental distinct is automatically suspect.

In America, black people descended from slaves are all mixed together. There are not distinct categories like there are in Africa.

Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by jacobolus »

dkersten wrote: post #151
nateberkopec wrote: post #10

Over the next 20 or so years, expect a lot of syndromes/conditions to be reclassified, as Michael Sharpe puts in the article, as "biological condition[s] that can be perpetuated by social and psychological factors.". I struggled with RSI for a couple of years until I read John Sarno's "The Mind-Body Connection" on the recommendation of someone from HN. Sarno's thesis is that many chronic pain conditions (those withou…

> I struggled with RSI for a couple of years until I read John Sarno's "The Mind-Body Connection" on the recommendation of someone from HN. Sarno's thesis is that many chronic pain conditions (those without a clear physical mechanism, such as RSI or chronic back pain) are psychosomatic. I've had two RSI episodes in my life. The first one was similar to what you described and went away without any physical interventio…

RSI from typing is typically caused by excessive wrist extension, though wrist pronation, ulnar deviation, etc. can also be bad. As can any other un-neutral body position held for a long time while working.

The way to prevent it is to type with a posture such that all of the joints of the arm/hand (not to mention neck, shoulders, etc.) are in a neutral position with as little static load as possible.

This can be accomplished more or less on a standard keyboard, but is much easier with a keyboard that has a split halves, tented. It is also helpful to type with a light, bouncy style, which can be helped by careful choice of keyswitches.

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Post by [deleted] »

jimmy1 wrote: post #15
nateberkopec wrote: post #10

Over the next 20 or so years, expect a lot of syndromes/conditions to be reclassified, as Michael Sharpe puts in the article, as "biological condition[s] that can be perpetuated by social and psychological factors.". I struggled with RSI for a couple of years until I read John Sarno's "The Mind-Body Connection" on the recommendation of someone from HN. Sarno's thesis is that many chronic pain conditions (those withou…

> the pain is real, it's just caused by processes in your brain, I don't find this particular statement very revolutionary. We have known for a long time that physical pain is manufactured by the brain as an evolutionary tactic to help us prevent further harm to ourselves. If we didn't "feel pain" when we were on fire, we would burn to death.

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Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by fenomas »

nathan_long wrote: post #192
fenomas wrote: post #187

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> Whether you are white or black or have epicanthic fold or stuff like that is 100% encoded in your genes. Sure, but that doesn't mean your race is. Race is a subjective classification based on objective characteristics.

> Race is a subjective classification based on objective characteristics. Perhaps more subjective than you think? Please read about the "one drop rule".

I am familiar with it, and I have no idea what you're trying to suggest.

Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by freeflight »

vgoh1 wrote: post #188
nateberkopec wrote: post #10

Over the next 20 or so years, expect a lot of syndromes/conditions to be reclassified, as Michael Sharpe puts in the article, as "biological condition[s] that can be perpetuated by social and psychological factors.". I struggled with RSI for a couple of years until I read John Sarno's "The Mind-Body Connection" on the recommendation of someone from HN. Sarno's thesis is that many chronic pain conditions (those withou…

When I was a child, I would suffer from terrible muscle contractions in my calves. I would get a charlie horse in the middle of the night, and it would not go away completely for over a day. I couldn't put my foot flat to walk properly, and it was very painful. After about a dozen of these attacks, I noticed a pattern - they would occur on the night before something that I was dreading - a test I wasn't prepared for,…

Wow, that's like the exact opposite to my nighty calf cramps.

I tend to get them when I'm way too relaxed as that makes me "stretch out" during sleep, which I kinda notice in half-sleep as feeling great, until I seemingly "overstretch" and get fully woken up to a painful calf cramp.

Tho that whole problem kinda fixed itself once I started taking Magnesium supplements before going to bed, to help with teeth gnashing/neck pains.

Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by jayd16 »

ethbro wrote: post #182
jimmy1 wrote: post #15

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> the pain is real, it's just caused by processes in your brain, I don't find this particular statement very revolutionary. We have known for a long time that physical pain is manufactured by the brain as an evolutionary tactic to help us prevent further harm to ourselves. If we didn't "feel pain" when we were on fire, we would burn to death.

It goes a level deeper than that. Learned from dating a very good massage therapist for awhile, our minds relatively commonly cause physical changes that lead to pain symptoms. E.g. you subconsciously favor your back, leading to overexertion of other muscles, leading to physical degradation and pain from those muscles Talking with her was eye opening on the amount of sub-major muscle "stuff" that is constantly subcon…

Is that considered psychosomatic, though? I don't think this fits the topic at hand.

Re: Online activists are silencing us, scientists say

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Post by bjlorenzen »

sleepysysadmin wrote: post #69

I feel like the topic of CFS is irrelevant to the story. Why is there such toxicity online creating these echochambers. If you point out anything that might question climate change for example, you will be called all kinds of names. Nobody looks at the points you are making. Let's test it right now. I'm sure I'll get downvoted and nobody will respond. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geologic_temperature_record#/m... Ov…

Thanks for posting this, I now have a new opinion on climate change :)
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