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Amazon’s Alexa Has 80k Apps and No Runaway Hit

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Anecdotally a developer friend of mine strongly suspects, most people, are like him and not actually using these home speakers very much. I’ve been working on a an Audio App that reads any articles to you for iOS/Android and planned to bring it to the Echo and he seems to suggest my efforts are totally wasted. Although their market reach seems to be massive, likely related to their cheap price, not surprised by this…

Pretty much same, the Wink integration lets us turn on/off lights and do other things like “Turn on Movie Theater” which dims certain lights and turns off all others. We use Alexa to play music when we just want something going in the background as well. Additionally we use timers and the grocery list. Wife uses the daily news rundown. Kids ask Alexa questions (what’s the fastest bird), have it make fart sounds, and…

I use the flash briefing thing every day. I suspect most people don’t know about it. I wake up, stumble into the shower and say “Alexa play the news” on the way. By the time I finish brushing my teeth I got my curated news read to me. Pretty nice.

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The problem seems to be there is no barrier to entry. Say what you like about Apple's app store, at least they have standards that are enforced, and to a certain extent Google as well. Windows, and the Microsoft app store, on the other hand, suffers the same problem of quality control and lack of curation as Alexa skills. There are some gems, and Amazon have put effort into making Alexa and the Echo devices useful ou…

Amazon constantly runs “hackathons” with thousands of dollars of prizes to the winners and free echos just for playing. When I did it there were probably a hundred projects that were along the lines of “hi Alexa my name is John” “hi John I like you” (or similar effort). And all of them got into the store and all of them got free echos.

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Alexa is a glorified lighting management system for me. Given it’s current capabilities, that’s all it’s going to be for the foreseeable future. Oh, I’ll ask it the weather sometimes, but come on - what can Alexa really do that’s all that compelling, that already isn’t a capability of Siri/Google?

"Alexa set a timer for 15 minutes." (She's a cooking timer) "Alexa what time is it" (She's a clock) "Alexa switch the tv off" (She can't switch it on) "Alexa, meow meow/Pika/fart" (Novelty nonsense) "Alexa, turn the heating up in the living room" (Nest integration) Yeah that's about it. The only really useful thing she does for us is music control on our sonos system - "Alexa, play the album X by Y in the kitchen". T…

Try customizing your daily briefing. Really nice for a curated news briefing while you’re getting ready in the morning, or making dinner.

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> * Setting multiple alarms (why can't apple do this??) It launched without that ability but an update sometime last year lets you set multiple alarms.

Sorry that should have been timers. If I tell Siri to set a timer (while a timer is running) it still asks if I want to change the timer or leave it alone.

You can set multiple timers in Siri. At least on a Homepod.

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The problem is that Alexa is just a consumer voice command line. UI discoverability is impossible, and everything that you can do is just a utility that does something else. There are no native apps because everything that it can do is just an IO to something else. If they actually get conversational, this will change, but until then, it’s just a command line with no man page.

> The problem is that Alexa is just a consumer voice command line. UI discoverability is impossible, and everything that you can do is just a utility that does something else This is a really important point, and both a strength and a weakness. The iPhone began as essentially a front end to existing services (with visual discovery, which a voice interface inherently lacks). I used to name mine "FEP" (as in Front End…

Just for the final point, they’re pretty good for letting 1 device respond.

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I don't want rapid (rabid?) iteration, I want shit that works . "The cloud" is little more than a hyped-up, glorified business objective; human beings shouldn't have to be connected to the hive mind to enjoy the full benefits of technology. Nothing smacks of SV-style elitism more than the proliferation of "the cloud" And you can pry my locally-installed videogames from my cold-dead hands. I hope every single streamin…

I guess you’ll have to wait until someone serves your market niche. Hopefully, with 100 million Amazon devices, and growing fast, you’ll have your product within a decade or two.

Shit that works is a niche market now?

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Yup, which is how much of the world still lives. Spotty internet access at best

That’s why you don’t see rapid iteration in the rest of the world. Google, Apple, Amazon can update their voice devices continuously without a local software release. If the next generation voice algorithms needs twice as much hardware, your $30 device will still work because the processing is in the cloud. Video games, for example, have been trying to move to the cloud. Put all the code in the cloud and just send th…

> Video games, for example, have been trying to move to the cloud

Trying and failing for a decade or more, because people like low latency and being able to customise things.

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I was taking with a friend who said ,"people use Alexa like a toaster, we haven't found what this interface will be really good at" But what if it /is/ just a toaster? Tech people tend to have high hopes for technology but technology must serve a purpose and it will go the way of the dodo if the purpose of not strong or clear. For me, having a voice interface for music and calls is enough justification for such a dev…

> or me, having a voice interface for music and calls is enough justification for such a device, and I assume this is true for others as well.

I wouldn't assume anything like that.

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