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Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Re: Notion – All-in-one workspace for notes, tasks, wikis, and databases

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Post by lstamour »

kjksf wrote: post #198
z0r wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Friends don't let friends use web apps. Aside from privacy concerns, relying on someone else's server functioning and being forced to use whatever the newest "improved" version are all strikes against em. Who needs another login collected by someone else (so trustworthy) that you fill with credentials that will be stolen in a hack revealed a few years down the line? There's never any real consequences for service pro…

Notion doesn't store password. You can either log-in with Google account (which you most likely already have) or via 2fa mechanism where they send an expiring login link to your e-mail address. There are no password and therefore nothing to hack.

Well... there's the data you've stored, if you're trying to keep it private. But, yes, it does invalidate the original point. :)

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Post by lazyant »

We've been using Notion for a year or two now (a lot of people didn't like Confluence) and it's been working pretty well.

I particularly like how they construct URLs for documents; it always keep its ID regardless of title changes, but it also shows the title in the URL.

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Post by lvs »

ausjke wrote: post #62

I am uncomfortable to put all personal thoughts, diaries, etc into a non-self-hosting place. Can they dockerize this and sell that so I can self-host the docker image instead? for people that is not tech-savvy, what about they buy a docker-container-hosted-by-the-vendor-company but can encrypt the contents in a way that nobody else can peek into the content ever?

I miss the days when you could buy a piece of software -- like, physically buy a license that allows you to use it in perpetuity on your own terms. Then, if you want to pay for some hosted features, it makes sense to have a subscription. But the default cloud subscription dependency business plan immediately turns me off to any product. I've got too many damn subscriptions, and I can't take on any more.

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Post by kjksf »

lucasfcosta wrote: post #107

I wish I could import stuff from Evernote into Notion. Just copying and pasting would be amazing. If I could copy and paste checklists (or maybe even just copy a list and turn multiple items into checklist items at once).

It's not a perfect import but they do have it: https://www.notion.so/Importing-Guides-18c37b470e8941789548b...

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Post by atschantz »

I used Notion for a significant period but ended up switching to Nuclino [1] - which is identical in many respects, but without the various add-ons that are unnecessary if you're working with text/images.

I've found it to be more responsive, and to my tastes, it has a better UI. I'm not a big fan of the emoji/blank file image that is necessary with every Notion entry.

[1] - https://www.nuclino.com/

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Post by beat »

bunderbunder wrote: post #197
ymolodtsov wrote: post #165

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Enterprise is the key word here. Much more companies care about having control over their infrastructure. As for Notion, I guess even on Hacker News only a small share of users would care enough.

It's possibly something many of us should care more about, though. Suppose your company handles a fair bit of confidential information, and some of that information ends up in Notion as part of your general project management workflow. Now you've got to worry about Notion experiencing a data breach, and whether or not that breach could get you in hot water with your clients, or even into legal trouble. With on-prem o…

But again, that's enterprise.

This started with the idea of a personal on-prem solution, which is probably not worth the cost to maintain for the company. I mean, how much is it worth to you to have an on-prem personal solution for a diary? Because that's the worry... people are afraid that their household budget or their database that tracks the content of various adult films or whatever is going to get exposed. That's mostly about embarrassment, not actual harm. That's not something worth hundreds of dollars a month to most people.

And really, if I want to write down my deep dark thoughts where no one will read them, I'll use paper.

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Post by lymitshn »

tommoor wrote: post #194

If you like Notion but are looking for something open source, similarly polished and more wiki-focused then this will be up your street - http://getoutline.com We've been building it for 2 years, happy to answer questions.

Looks great, would be nice to have syntax highlight support for more languages and maybe MathJax support.

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Post by wishinghand »

mjulian wrote: post #51

I love the product, but the login workflow is awful. Why innovate on logins? We've solved that problem. Specifically, the login is a randomly-generated one-time code sent to your email address. Notion says this is more secure than them storing a username+password, but that's a dubious argument. They've also said this is two-factor auth (lolno). A side effect of this is that Notion is unusable on my mobile device sinc…

Slack tries to do this too. You have to click a few buttons to get the app to let you type in your username and password.

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Post by dvtrn »

techntoke wrote: post #93
13415 wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe what he meant is that he wants all of the contents and databases to reside on his machine unless an item is explicitly shared with someone else. For some people like me that's a basic condition to even consider a tool.

Exactly... I've started building something using Hugo that does all this. That way you can create a calendar section, and then use front-matter to define the calendar entries in that section. It even creates an ICS for each item and a calendar for the entire section.

Hugo? As in the static site generator Hugo? That sounds very interesting, I've been using Hugo at work for an internal-only facing developer 'blog'.

Do you publish the progress of this project you're working on for interested persons to keep track or should we wait until you're ready to unveil it?

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Post by dawnerd »

johnzimmerman wrote: post #203
throwaway382 wrote: post #144

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It looks like they use FullStory, so employees can probably see everything you're doing. I'd be surprised if they were recording without ever watching the recordings. (FullStory records what you do in your browser. It records all DOM elements, so all your data is being recorded and sent to a 3rd party.)

You can opt out of Fullstory tracking here > https://www.fullstory.com/optout/

Does that also opt you out of their apps too? Guessing all this does is set a cookie for that browser.
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