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Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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post #201

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I use Pocket, though not with Firefox. It is a very good and useful (and free!) service. I wouldn't disregard a browser just because it comes with built-in integration.

It wasn't about Pocket itself but that Firefox was rudely using notifications to advertise to me. So I went back to Chrome, which has never done anything like that.

Lol, you mean apart from prodding you on every single Google site to "switch to a better browser" or the websites which misleadingly show the "Sign in" button with your name already filled in(!!)

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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post #205

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And those architectural improvements broke things that worked for me previously, from my point of view they aren't improvements at all. I'm a user, we should I care that they are making architectural improvements while they rewrite things in a different language when there are so many obvious issues preventing me from using it? At this rate they will be rewriting it for no one.

I'm sorry you had a bad experience. But architectural improvements are done to improve performance and stability. I can't think of a single Rust component that shipped without extensive performance measurement to demonstrate improvements in the important metrics that users care about.

> demonstrate improvements in the important metrics that users care about

And yet market share is plummeting, doesn't that indicated that your metrics for what users care about are completely wrong?

It's hardly me alone having this experience, most firefox users had there extensions break for no visible benefit. Anyone with the non-default ubuntu theme has the same issue with text boxes, which indicates a complete lack of QA.

I also have a 15 year long emotional attachment to firefox and a desire to see it succeed, if you can't convince me these changes are for the better then good luck with the rest of the world.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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post #179

When you stop listening to your users they stop using your product. Remove pocket. Respect user privacy again. Maybe they’ll return.

Probably worth pointing out that they now own pocket. So it's a bit different than sending data to a 3rd party: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/2017/02/27/mozilla-acquires-po...

But I completely agree with how it was initially integrated, it was a terrible decision.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Quantum would make my work laptop (Macbook pro, 13 inch touchbar 2017) overheat constantly. It just always had performance issues and I troubleshooted every way I could. I never figured out what exactly was causing it. I tried to switch to Firefox for 2 solid months, but I just couldn't do it :(

There is an outstanding bug: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1429522 that I became aware of due to a Firefox related topic a few months ago[1].

You can improve the performance by setting "gfx.compositor.glcontext.opaque" to true in the about:config settings. This will disable the transparency of the window, but it will reduce the overall resource consumption. The reduction is significant, approximately several extra hours of Firefox use, and your lap will thank you.

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17934764

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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post #55

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I just deleted Chrome, and switched to Brave as my full-time personal browser: faster, more secure, and based on Chromium so full extension support[1]. I still use and support Firefox for development purposes, and am wedded to containers, but apart from that it's Brave all the way (especially on mobile, which has been my default browser for over a year now). [1] Excluding anything that bakes in Google spyware, and I…

Thanks for suggesting Brave. Just downloaded it, and it seems very well put together. Interesting how that plan to pay you to view ads.

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Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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Quantum I think was too incremental and conservative, trying to integrate Servo into Gecko. They’ve ended up making a desktop browser which is as good as Chrome, but not good enough to demand attention. Mobile, where parallelism should be most beneficial, has lagged behind, and parallel layout, which is where the real prize is, has disappeared over the horizon. Servo has been relegated to WebVR experiments which are…

Servo is nowhere near ready. It's been a few months since I've seen actual results, but I'd be surprised, if it nowadays completed ACID3 (which was state of the art for browsers in 2009). The thing is that rewriting a browser engine doesn't just happen over night. No bigger browser engine has been written from scratch since the previous millennium. Also, no browser engine implements all currently specified webstandar…

Maybe we need simpler standards? Ones that are implementable without spending a billion dollars.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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post #9

Been really enjoying Firefox, especially after Quantum. More devs should support and use it, lest we be beholden to Chrome for the rest of time.

I agree more option other chrome is a positive. Started to use duck duck go browser on mobile and so far so good. Firefox has always been a resource hog and crash prone for me on just about any system. Although I use it primarily for some of its features and prefer it over chrome.

In my experience that's not the case since Quantum.

Re: Firefox desktop market share now below 9%

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I love using Firefox as my daily driver, and I can always pop open chrome if I really have to. What kind of life do you lead where your browser needs to have CORS constantly disabled?

This can be helpful in development scenarios. I’m supporting a team that uses localstack to support local development against some AWS services. Unfortunately, the CORS settings for localstack break the development environment. With Chrome allowing them to disable from the command-line, I can provide a shortcut to launch with degraded security, no plugins, no user settings, etc. My only wish is that Chrome would make…

Why not just configure your server or a proxy to add the necessary headers that unlock CORS restrictions.
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