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My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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HN could have anonymous, expiring accounts. Italy. I am 30 now. 2012 €500/mo, €1000/mo after 6 months "body rental" 2013 €25k + car associate consultant in IT company 2014 €30k + car consultant in same IT company 2015 €37k IT business analyst in large manufacturing company 2016 €40k same 2017 €42k same 2018 €42k same

Care to explain why you would like to have "anonymous" accounts? I'm also from Italy and I know that for us, as italians, salary is a taboo that must be overcome.

In which position you are currently?

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I am a brown male working in India. The salaries are rounded to the nearest 100000 INR. USD values are rounded to the nearest 1000 USD. These are salaries per year . Need to emphasize this because when you see numbers like 3000 USD you may think this is per month. No it is indeed 3000 USD per year. When there are stocks involved, only the stocks that vest per year is included as part of the yearly salary. 2003 - 0 YO…

Something significant happened between years 10 and 12. You managed to double your pay. May I ask what it was? Incidentally, I'm at exactly the same experience as you and I'll just say I make a lot less.

They doubled their $ pay several times - this is probably related to just how massive GDP growth has been in India.

https://tradingeconomics.com/india/gdp : the country is 5x more productive than it was in 2002! By comparison the US has only doubled: https://www.statista.com/statistics/188105/annual-gdp-of-the...

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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This is certainly an intresting post and i likethe OP attitude. We should be totally transparent about our compensation as he did. Salary is just the result of a negotiation, nothing else, in the majority of cases it does not reflect anything more than your "perceived" value. White male born in the '88 in Italy. I have a bachelor degree and working since 2008. Here in Italy is quite uncommon to have big jumps in sala…

Are these figures after taxes/INPS/health insurance etc.?

Sorry i didn't say that all those figures are Before Taxes. I live in northen italy in a place where living is not too much expensive.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I always wonder when I read about salaries in other countries - what do the numbers usually mean? Not sure if this is how it works everywhere, but where I live, we have 3 different ways of talking about salary: 1) What you actually get 2) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes 3) What you actually get + what you pay in taxes + what your employer pays in taxes Usually we talk about #2 when discussing salaries.…

I have worked in Australia, Singapore and Germany. When mentioning salary, we usually qualify it with either "Gross" or "Net", which corresponds to 1) and 2) respectively on your list.

though "what you actually get" in the long run includes superannuation in Australia, but people do not count it as a component of their gross income.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I really can't understand why they stay in the UK then, to be honest. We seem to have better salaries and generally lower cost of living across the sea... I have no affiliation with this company but here's a recent example, quoted at 95k so you could presumably push higher: https://www.ninedots.io/job/lead-react-engineer/

Well, the places where you'd get better salaries than London probably don't have a much lower cost of living. Personally I'd consider working somewhere like California for a couple of years for the experience, but like a lot of Brits I just don't think the US would be a comfortable cultural fit.

Right, but I was referring to the Irish Sea. €95k (about $107k thanks to the atrocious euro atm) for that job would be ridiculously low in the valley, after all. As someone who left California for Europe because I wanted a better cultural fit I wouldn't tell Brits they should move to the US. But Ireland appears to offer better salaries, for all of its housing issues is still cheaper than southeast England, and isn't so dissimilar culturally.

TBF sticker shock isn't just for salaries. When I started looking at private health insurance in Ireland I kept double-checking to make sure they weren't quoting weekly rates or similar; I couldn't believe how cheap it was. Similarly, the cost of living is much more than it used to be, but SV dwarfs Dublin (and most other places) for COL.

Also, I just hated coming in to work on Monday morning and being greeted with annoyance that I hadn't read my boss' email from Sunday night. I wasn't too keen on the look of disbelief when I asked for two whole weeks off, either.

Funny enough being a European citizen working in California seems like the best of both worlds. You'd get very high pay but still have a fallback in the event of illness, injury, unemployment, etc. And, of course, some of us have partners who don't work in tech and the salary disparities there are much smaller (or in some cases, favour Europe - at least the northern bits)

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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I can’t help but be alarmed by the fact that his health has been on the decline for the last five years due to contracting Lyme disease. I know of one person who was fine after like a month (detected early) and someone who spent the better part of a year recovering, but nothing like this! Hope the blog writer gets better soon.

He remarks here ( https://humanwhocodes.com/blog/2014/04/02/i-have-lyme-diseas... ) that his health has been poor for the last (now) 19 years. Having contracted Lyme roughly 9 years ago myself, I can empathize with him. The effects never truly go away.

And still, many doctors even in Connecticut where it was first detected won't provide the antibiotics for it until you have a positive test, and the tests are unreliable. This is a real tragedy.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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No country is worse than Germany for software developers. Even the guy from India in this thread earns 2-3x more than usual senior salary in Germany, but expenses are 10x higher here. I really hate this country.

Don't get too wowed by lots of zeroes without context. When I moved from London to Berlin, my salary barely changed on paper (45k GBP to 47k EUR), but my quality of life went way up and cost of living way down.

The best thing these salary comparisons are for are with reference to the same country/city; otherwise you have to account for thinks like healthcare costs, differences in rent, expected working hours, holiday time, etc etc.

I seriously doubt that 100k USD in the Bay Area is significantly better than 50-60k in Berlin.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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Everyone is posting salaries... How about hours worked. I sometimes feel like a frog in a pot and am in the office for 45 hours a normal week and at times 50. Once in a while a few hours of production support on nights and weekends.

The only time I worked 40 hours was government...

I realize it could also be the nature of the application. Looks like the author is mainly on UI while my application, and at my previous company, processes time sensitive data 24x7.

I often times I did only UI work, or QA work to not have production calls.

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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San Francisco

2013 - $82,000 - Software Engineer, Startup

2014 - $117,000 - Software Engineer, Startup

2015 - $144,000 - Software Engineer, Startup

2016 - $153,000 - Software Engineer, Bigco

2017 - $176,000 - Senior Software Engineer, Bigco

2018 - $187,000 - Senior Software Engineer, Bigco

Re: My somewhat complete salary history as a software engineer

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This is the crazy part for me:

They suggested that she contact human rights organisations, so Julie rang up and left messages with several - but she never received a reply.

What is up with non-replies from organizations? She reaches out and nothing. It's not a Facebook Ad Request appeal (an aside, is crazy how non-responsive they can be and get away with it) it's human rights!

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