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That doesn't strike me as particularly noteworthy/unexpected.
You don’t think it’s unreasonable that a laptop should work in daylight?
As for the daylight, the sun is not the same as daylight. Devices have tolerances for heat, tropical heat in Miami is not the same as daylight in Chicago.
It's probably because Toronto, where he lives, has been around 27 degrees and 70% humidity the last few days. That's around 7 degrees and 20% humidity above the typical office climate of around 20 degrees and 50% humidity. That difference can result in roughly 20% lower dissipation power if the temperature at the heatsink is around 50-60 degrees which it appears to have been historically. That 20% extra dissipation p…
What’s to say he didn’t perform the benchmarking in a room with AC?
You know, I'm so beat down by the state of apple laptops, I don't even care. I was all ready to spring for a new machine the day these dropped. Until I found out that they max the 13" model at 16 gigs of ram. I'm so pissed. I don't want the 15". That's what external monitors are for. I like the portable to be fucking portable. Jesus. I give up.
Why do you need 32 GB of ram?
- running virtual machines.
- running MemSQL which requires a minimum of 8GB to be available.
- running video editing software.
There are probably other reasons, but those are the ones off the top of my head.
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The 'intel upgrade treadmill' consists of reducing transistor size and upping clock; the former of which reduces thermal issues, and the latter of which increases them.
> consists of reducing transistor size It used to. The problem here is that they have not been able to ship next gen chips and so they started shipping a 6-core chip on the same process as the old 4-core, and that doesn't work so well.
The i9 CPU is a K part, therefore, I would think one could conceivably undervolt/underclock in order to change the thermals on the machine to their liking. Is there such a tool for Mac OS X?
We're talking about a laptop here, which most definitely doesn't contain an overclockable i9 K processor.
It's probably because Toronto, where he lives, has been around 27 degrees and 70% humidity the last few days. That's around 7 degrees and 20% humidity above the typical office climate of around 20 degrees and 50% humidity. That difference can result in roughly 20% lower dissipation power if the temperature at the heatsink is around 50-60 degrees which it appears to have been historically. That 20% extra dissipation p…
The i7 was tested in the same circumstances I assume. So it shouldn't matter how hot or humid it was. The comparison should be valid.
Might just be silicon lottery, might be the GPU thermals are interfering or maybe the 2018 would run faster with 2 cores disabled.
So... they discovered that there is a reaason that desktop computers have a large heatsink with a fan many times larger attached... Don't buy a laptop and expect it's sustained performance to be anywhere near that of a proper desktop computer. It simply won't be
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When working as intern at an Apple store more than 10 years back the instructions from Apple for reassembly would always tell to put a huge amount of thermal grease on the CPU. So much that it would be squirted out from under the heatblock in large blobs. I always found it odd as I was used to add just as much as was needed without spilling over. Never read any research on it though so I'm curious what was the right…
"Better grease" makes a fairly limited difference over standard[0], and it requires way more care if it's a silver-based compound (as that's electrically conductive). I'm guessing their thinking is they want to avoid air at all costs , so requiring way excessive amounts ensures it will never be lacking , which they probably think is significantly worse than excesses. [0] the difference in thermal conductivity between…
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“Creative” workloads require sustained CPU tho’ and that’s who Apple claims this is for
Which "creative" workloads? Video, 3D, and photography mostly require sustained GPU. For audio, it's more the CPU.
This entire thread is baffling to me. Everyone rushing to justify buying a new high performance laptop which they don’t mind throttling because they never needed the performance in the first place??
Louis Rossmann made a video[1] a while ago presenting how badly optimized is the cooling on new MacBooks. In short: Apple prefers their MacBook CPU and GPU to run hot and thermally throttle so that the user is happy because the machine is quiet, and then, more importantly, Apple is also happy, because when it overheats often it has a shorter lifespan so you’ll have to buy a new MacBook after 2-3 years. https://www.yo…
So that's actually pretty well optimized.