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Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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Re: Intel CEO resigns after relationship with employee

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule? These are short questions that probably can't ever be fully answered and require books to be answered even semi-adequately. That said, a good answer probably has some element of the U.S.'s strange relationships with sexuality and Christianity, going back t…

Even if the Puritans (who usually referred to themselves as 'godly') were slightly less prim about sex then some people expect, they certainly weren't keen on sex outside of marriage. (They also banned Christmas and other holiday celebrations, theatre, walking 'for fun', and smashed stained glass windows in churches, slashed and burned paintings by Rubens and others, and pulled down medieval monuments as being 'idolatrous', had serious discussions about legislating that Catholics should have to wear special clothes so everyone could recognise them. When you hear 'Puritan' think 'Christian Taliban'.)

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Because it's cumbersome to write comments that don't assume anything but still convey something. single sentences suddenly become whole paragraphs and just for the tiny off-chance of him being homosexual.

Just use "they" or "she/he" instead of "she"... The typing isn't hard, the hard part is keeping yourself from making assumptions about who people like to date. There's much more than a "tiny off-chance" that people are queer, at least where I'm from (and probably at Intel HQ too).

I don't think so. Where do you get your numbers?

I'm not discriminating anyone when I assume the majority view on things as long as I stop doing it to an individual who tells me they are part of an minority.

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This doesn't only apply to the CEO. Middle-managers are people too.

Middle managers who want to find love at work can do it outside their departments - unlike the CEO who is everyone’s superior.

No, that doesn't work because people can get promoted.

It's also worth noting that the Intel CEO joined the company in 1982, apparently straight out of college.

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Given knowledge that the CEO is a male, assuming the relationship is with a female is simply based on statistics.

Why assume at all?

Have a read of the following thought piece, I feel like it will prove to be very relevant to you.

https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:1xuY5O...

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Why assume at all?

Because writing in English requires either gender specific singular pronouns or the awkward sounding use of a gender neutral _plural_ pronoun referring to a singular person.

"they" is both singular and plural.

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There is no way you would fire a CEO you actually wanted in place because they had a consensual relationship with a subordinate in the past . Why are US companies always so aggressive about moralising these issues? No one would take issue if he carried a gun at work. Why is it that corporate morals rule?

A relationship between a manager and someone they manage compromises the effectiveness of both the manager and the team. As CEO, he is everyone's boss, so having a consensual relationship with anyone involved in the organisation is a bad thing. If she got promoted, would it be because of her work, or her relationship with the boss? If she didn't get promoted, would it be because of her attitude, or her relationship w…

He wasn't the CEO when he dated an employee

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Sure, there's a policy, but who cares? People need to quit meddling in the affairs of others.

If a relationship is consensual what's the issue? If we're spending a significant part of our waking hours at work, it should be a baked in assumption that at some point, some coworkers are going to end up in a romantic relationship together. Hell, the majority of my significant romantic relationships started out as consensual workplace flirting.

It should only ever be an issue when that relationship causes trouble for the business.

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Of course they were sitting on it. However, I don't understand why didn't they go the usual nice route - Brian, how can we quickly get rid of you when we need to? Is $10M enough to cover any inconveniences? Enjoy your retirement and see you at the golf course! Game of Thrones Season 80x86?

Probably more than 10mm if they don’t claw back equity and golden parachutes.

I read it as 10nm and thought how appropriate :)

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Intel is in serious trouble right now.They accidentally gaffed recently and stated that their goal was "to keep AMD from getting more then 10-20% of the server market" while they deal with a whole bunch of engineering and fab problems with their current generation of chips. They are also looking down the barrel of Apple abandoning Intel, and for the first time in two decades, unleashing a true X86 competitor to the m…

Given knowledge that the CEO is a male, assuming the relationship is with a female is simply based on statistics.

I assumed it was a man because of another gender bias: I don't know many women working at Intel so statistically its likely to be a man
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