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Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by ASalazarMX » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 4:16 PM UTC

pzone wrote: post #195

ASalazarMX wrote: post #166

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> "American" is used as the demonym pretty much everywhere in the world other than Central America and South America. Solely by misappropriation. America was world-wide known as a continent before England sent their colonizers. Somehow migrating to America was misappropriated as meaning "migrating to the English colonies in America". Somehow the United States of America became the only America. I have the theory that…

Of course the only reason we use the term "American" is because of the USA! It's a natural term for residents of the USA, and has become ingrained in English by virtue of America being the largest English speaking country for nearly 200 years. Do non-English speakers have a problem with this? In Spanish the term for USA is "Estados Unidos" which isn't problematic at all.

It has nothing to do with language, it's about regional identity. Imagine if the French told Europe that France is now Europe, and what was Europe will now be called the Europes. It wouldn't matter if they say it in French or German.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by scotty79 » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 4:43 PM UTC

jessaustin wrote: post #210

scotty79 wrote: post #209

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> What is a wife else? Some female room mate, that pays rent with "love" whenever she feels like it? Life-long friend that supports you however she is able to, respects you, accepts you and lies to you so you can feel that you are a better person than you actually are, which altogether helps you with achieving whatever goals you aim to achieve. Personal advice for you. Please wait with marrying someone till "having a…

This may be good advice for this particular situation, but it's kind of grim if we generalize. Should only those with corporate-approved existences procreate? Maybe we should ask the corporations... Mature humans can relate to and support each other in a marriage in both easy and difficult situations. There are limits, of course, because humans, but if everyone waited until everything was sorted out to get married th…

I meant my advice just for Double_a_92. By reading what he wrote I just think he might have trouble finding happiness in life until he outgrows the issue of money.

This advice is not meant to be generalized. A lot of people are perfectly capable of appreciating human beings in their life for what they are not for the bottom line they provide or cost and services rendered by them and can lead happy and harmonious life even with strain on resources. I'm just afraid that Double_a_92 is not one of those people, thus my advice.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by josephjrobison » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 5:16 PM UTC

okmokmz wrote: post #149

acheron wrote: post #123

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Please let me know which countries have "America" in their name and I will be happy to refer to people from any of them as "Americans".

South America: Argentina, Bolivia, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Ecuador, Guyana, Paraguay, Peru, Suriname, Uruguay, and Venezuela Central America: Belize, Costa Rica, El Salvador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua, and Panama North America: US, Canada, Mexico i.e. The Americas

But American is just shorthand of United States of America, and rolls off the tongue better.

I postulate that most Americans aren’t trying to claim all of the Western Hemisphere, it’s just what’s currently being used.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by Double_a_92 » Wed, Jun 13, 2018, 6:25 PM UTC

scotty79 wrote: post #212

jessaustin wrote: post #210

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This may be good advice for this particular situation, but it's kind of grim if we generalize. Should only those with corporate-approved existences procreate? Maybe we should ask the corporations... Mature humans can relate to and support each other in a marriage in both easy and difficult situations. There are limits, of course, because humans, but if everyone waited until everything was sorted out to get married th…

I meant my advice just for Double_a_92. By reading what he wrote I just think he might have trouble finding happiness in life until he outgrows the issue of money. This advice is not meant to be generalized. A lot of people are perfectly capable of appreciating human beings in their life for what they are not for the bottom line they provide or cost and services rendered by them and can lead happy and harmonious life…

It's not only about money. It's about balance and fairness. You ALSO provide life-long friendship and love to your wife, AND also financial support (I guess it's about money after all). So she should also provide more that just the love... I.e. doing housework in a proper way and taking care of your kids.

Or do you think it would by okay for the (employed) husband to suddenly stop working and go into social welfare because he feels like it?

I guess you could still accept the unfairness if there is nothing better, because we only have one life and it is probably nicer with a partner... But still.

Re: How Children in a Maya Village Do Chores

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Post by scotty79 » Fri, Jun 15, 2018, 10:56 PM UTC

Double_a_92 wrote: post #214

scotty79 wrote: post #212

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I meant my advice just for Double_a_92. By reading what he wrote I just think he might have trouble finding happiness in life until he outgrows the issue of money. This advice is not meant to be generalized. A lot of people are perfectly capable of appreciating human beings in their life for what they are not for the bottom line they provide or cost and services rendered by them and can lead happy and harmonious life…

It's not only about money. It's about balance and fairness. You ALSO provide life-long friendship and love to your wife, AND also financial support (I guess it's about money after all). So she should also provide more that just the love... I.e. doing housework in a proper way and taking care of your kids. Or do you think it would by okay for the (employed) husband to suddenly stop working and go into social welfare b…

> ... AND also financial support

Now.

You might get hit by a truck next week and then your wife, if she actually loves you, respects you and gives shit about you, won't dump you because you no longer have any money but will figure out how to get enough money to get you both through this.

If she is with you just for your money, or you are with her just to throw money at her and expect your laundry and cooking and cleaning to be taken care of then you might just as well skip the relationship. She might get actual job and you might get profesional services instead.

> Or do you think it would by okay for the (employed) husband to suddenly stop working and go into social welfare because he feels like it?

Of course it's ok to stop doing the job you don't want to do. Especially if you can get enough money elsewhere (social welfare) to survive.

Opposite of that is staying in the job you don't want to do and gradually loosing respect for yourself and suffering growing resentment towards yourself, your job, and the people you think are the reason you absolutely must never stop doing what you hate so they can get money. You can always earn more money. But you can't unbreak your broken mind or relationship.

If you consider your job personal sacrifice and your money, your most important contribution then... well, it doesn't work well in the long run.

> I guess you could still accept the unfairness if there is nothing better, because we only have one life and it is probably nicer with a partner... But still.

Fair doesn't mean equal. And equal doesn't mean fair. It's best if both sides think they themselves got better part of the deal. It doesn't matter what and how much they are actually contributing by any objective measure. Perception is what matters.

If monetary contribution is what you value then find women that earns way more than you do. Then figure out what she values and you don't mind doing or acquiring, and give her that. You'll both live happily ever after together.