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Re: Make front end shit again

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https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/404 https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/500 https://www.bloomberg.com/500 Their error pages are still quite funny (and epic shit).

Crikey is good too: https://www.crikey.com.au/zxy

While we’re on it, https://theaustralian.com.au/404

Re: Make front end shit again

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I love the point the site is trying to make but I'm confused as to why this is built with a vue.js static site generator requiring node/npm/yarn and an almost 7,000 line yarn.lock file. Shouldn't this literally be a single page, hand-built HTML file with inline CSS? Is this trying to be self-ironic or something?

It's funny because as humans, we always try to improve things since we are dissatisfied with imperfection. But we tend to make simple things very complex in order to make them perfect. The complexity then becomes the problem. And we are back where we started for another attempt at perfection. The wheel goes round and round.

Perfect is the enemy of good.

Although i understand Voltaire was using an cracked version of HoTMetaL Pro to make his web pages, so the whole premise is a little questionable.

Re: Make front end shit again

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I love the point the site is trying to make but I'm confused as to why this is built with a vue.js static site generator requiring node/npm/yarn and an almost 7,000 line yarn.lock file. Shouldn't this literally be a single page, hand-built HTML file with inline CSS? Is this trying to be self-ironic or something?

This is more like fun old web being reborn as brutalism in web design. Sadly, doesn't have anything to do with hand made html and css, just visuals. EDIT: An article on brutalism and antidesign: https://www.nngroup.com/articles/brutalism-antidesign/

I don’t really think this qualifies as brutalism. A key element of brutalist design is the lack of the excess.

Web 1.0 was full of excess. We’re talking 3D rotating words on fire when bold would suffice. Lots of drapery, lots of window dressing.

A brutalist site would be more like the sites that have a structure, but the seams are not made seamless, and excesses are avoided... Like craigslist.

Re: Make front end shit again

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jquery is a technology that has mostly outlived its usefulness, much like the others on the list.

It's not a "technology" it's a library, and still very useful, found on millions of sites old and new. Has a vast ecosystem of free plugins with extensive documented support and very diverse browser support. Also he put "HTML" on the list, you're saying that has outlived its usefulness?

I thought libraries could be technologies. If that's wrong, then I used the wrong word.

I probably characterized the list wrong anyway, as you've pointed out, since HTML decidedly has not outlived its usefulness. Perhaps it's a list of web things prominently used 15 years ago.

I would normally use "technologies" here, but it seems we have a difference of definition.

Re: Make front end shit again

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Hey! I made this dumb thing! Yes, the fact that it's made with vue and stuff is on porpuse, I wanted to make it with reasonml but didn't have any time so ended up with vue. The point is that we complicate so many shit today that is not needed Have fun and I will add some marquee tags!

Why did you add jquery to a list containing "blink" on a page with CRT monitors and animated GIFs? Let me guess, you have a negative opinion about jquery, that all anyone needs is vue.js

Oh no! I love jQuery! I miss it that's the point.

At work I use react and can't use jQuery anymore and I miss it man.

Re: Make front end shit again

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jquery is a technology that has mostly outlived its usefulness, much like the others on the list.

It's not a "technology" it's a library, and still very useful, found on millions of sites old and new. Has a vast ecosystem of free plugins with extensive documented support and very diverse browser support. Also he put "HTML" on the list, you're saying that has outlived its usefulness?

I love jQuery and I don't believe it has outlived anything.

About the html, I live in a bubble of react and vue and everything is templates and jsx that's why HTML is there

Re: Make front end shit again

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Reminds me of the Bloomberg tech site, which had a lot of effort put into its 'brutalist' design to look like a 1995-era web page.

I guess we now have an answer to what comes after material design. Somebody tell the maintainers of Bootstrap so we can have the entire internet updated asap.

You jest, but Material Design is the new standard for approachable UX design. Looking forward to see what topples it.

Re: Make front end shit again

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It's not a "technology" it's a library, and still very useful, found on millions of sites old and new. Has a vast ecosystem of free plugins with extensive documented support and very diverse browser support. Also he put "HTML" on the list, you're saying that has outlived its usefulness?

I thought libraries could be technologies. If that's wrong, then I used the wrong word. I probably characterized the list wrong anyway, as you've pointed out, since HTML decidedly has not outlived its usefulness. Perhaps it's a list of web things prominently used 15 years ago. I would normally use "technologies" here, but it seems we have a difference of definition.

Ok, but jquery didn't exist 15 years ago, and really didn't get popular until after 2008 IMHO. Doesn't matter, I get your point.

Re: Make front end shit again

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It's not a "technology" it's a library, and still very useful, found on millions of sites old and new. Has a vast ecosystem of free plugins with extensive documented support and very diverse browser support. Also he put "HTML" on the list, you're saying that has outlived its usefulness?

I love jQuery and I don't believe it has outlived anything. About the html, I live in a bubble of react and vue and everything is templates and jsx that's why HTML is there

Cool. Jquery has helped me a lot over the years in my job. Jquery plugins have saved my ass countless times. I would only use them sparingly, such as slideshow carousels, which are too difficult to whip one up when client needs it 5 min ago.

I love having an API into the jquery plugin and getting things done quickly and efficiently, and giving credit to the developer who kindly gave it away for free.

This is why jquery doesn't belong on a list with "blink" tag which everyone hates because it's a flawed tag that should be forgotten, much like over-use of animated gifs.

Anyway.. good luck breaking free of the bubble!

Re: Make front end shit again

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A few months ago I created a project called Hypertext Town, a simple project where anybody can create "camps" (a collection of HTML, images etc.) and connect them together through "towns". A town lives at a subdomain (e.g: town.hypertext.town) and a camp lives at /~camp (e.g: town.hypertext.town/~camp). I never "launched" it so it's just been languishing in obscurity on the www but if anybody wants to make cute littl…

Schools should do this, let their kids explore the joys of building their own personal online space, rather than the branded and conformed offerings they'll likely use instead (FB, Google, Pinterest, etc)

Yup. Sounds like less "technical" interface to a web server. I remember in high school we all had shell accounts on the school server, but you actually had to learn SCP and some basic Linux usage to make it work.
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