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How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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"You have enough savings to last at least two years." - fuck. me.

I don't understand why you can't just get a new job before quitting the old one. That's what everyone does.

The current style of tech interviews makes it very difficult. A lot of places have a long interview that you end up burning a whole day on it and you only have so many vacation and sick days

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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You're forgetting they all read all the way through cracking the code interview, the most difficult math book in history.

> the most difficult math book in history It is not a math book rather more of a puzzle book. On a side note - it's full of mistakes (your experience may vary though) If you like to see difficult math then please try to apply for a self-driving car engineer's job.

If you are suggesting deep learning involves difficult math then I have just had a stroke

Besides, cracking the code interview is definitely the hardest. Just check out the amazon reviews

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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Yeesh, the mindwash is strong. I had a hard time continuing to read this post after the Prestige by Association section. Working at a respected company known for cutting edge work is generally a good sign but it does not make you an Internet God or widen my eyes. It is like saying you went to Harvard or MIT. That's neat. You are probably reasonably intelligent. However, even that isn't an automatic and I'll reserve j…

Association and Reputation puts people into seats on premier nights, or on the streets outside Apple stores, or gets a foot in the door in business. Its a real thing, and people are wise to leverage it whenever they can!

Leverage it and treating it as gospel aren't the same.

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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What makes you say that?

2 weeks is the norm for regular jobs, but top tech companies are really struggling to fill top talent spots these days. While it is perfectly legal to give only 2 weeks notice, it's normally better to ask your manager how much time they'd reasonably need to fill your position, then have a conversation. So, I'd re-phrase the original conversation as "Hey Jerry, got a minute? Look, I don't think this is working out. I…

> top tech companies are really struggling to fill top talent spots these days

Maybe they should do something about their interview false negative rate then.

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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Let me bring a non SV perspective. A lot of people seem to forget that most developers live outside of SV where the salary vs cost of living makes just as much sense.

1. For a software Engineer who has kept their skills up and lives in a major metropolitan area, it doesn't take 2 years to get a job. It usually takes me about two weeks.

2. Who defines themselves by their job? A job is just a way for me to pay my bills. I go to work, come home and twice a month money appears in my account - no more no less. But see #1 about keeping your skills marketable.

The framework I use for leaving a job is simple. There are three reasons to leave a job - technology, environment, and money.

Technology - if you're learning marketable technology, I can deal with a not so great environment and a below market salary for awhile. Once I build my resume, I can leave for more money. On the other hand, don't stay at a company no matter how good the money is if it will cause your skills to atrophy. You leave yourself vulnerable and you cut off optionslity.

Environment - if I can find another job with a better environment, make the same amount of money and move forward technologically. I'll leave. Life is too short to stick with an environment that you hate.

Money - All other things being equal, why not make as much money as you can? I don't want to be in management but if I can make a significant amount more money doing what I enjoy, why not?

I've been hopping jobs for 10 years after staying at one company 9 years when I should have left after 2. But now, I'm starting to get the job hopping stench about my resume and I'm near the top for my local market. It would be counter productive for me to leave by choice in less than 3 years.

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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Because the author is delusional and thinks people actually give a shit about their "top tier" company...which most likely just sold ads on the internet.

I think my comment in this link applies to your comment as well: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=16711642 Is this person not allowed to put his own thoughts down on his own personal website? It's not like he's getting on CNN and preaching.

My comment was mostly in regards to the snobbiness of the "top tier" aspect. The person is free to explain his decision to leaving a job of course, but the bragging is just sad.

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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The OP has joined Facebook in June 2013. Assuming he has 3+ years of experience in Microsoft he must have been hired at Facebook at L4 which puts his salary as 135k + 250K (stock, may be more when Seattle office was just getting started). Facebook stock was ~$25 in June 2013 which means he has got 10000 RSUs of Facebook while joining. Value of this stock today is around $1.5M. He is in Seattle and his taxes are way l…

That assumes he held his stock. Everyone I know seems to sell as soon as it vests. If so he didn't get all the return you quoted.

There are so many ultra-optimistic assumptions in that post it’s hard to pick out just one. If all of those numbers were true it would represent the career/salary growth of an outlier employee. Although I’m sure it does happen every so often, no way the median “rank and file” software engineer at any of these top companies has that kind of outcome.

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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What real world are you referring to? Non-techies are not blown away by people who work at Google/Facebook/Apple. In my experience they are just always interested in the perks, etc.

EVERY tech article about the hot new startup introduces the founders in the following way. If they previously worked at Google, Facebook, they mentioned it. They don't say "founders previously worked at Google therefore THEY'RE AMAZING". But they mention it. If they previously worked at an irrelevant company, they don't mention the company. What's implicit is that if you worked at Google that's remarkable and worth m…

Same with schools. If they’re from Stanford I guarantee the article will mention it. If they’re from Generic State University they won’t (unless the article is for GSU’s campus paper).

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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post #83

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I don't understand why you can't just get a new job before quitting the old one. That's what everyone does.

The current style of tech interviews makes it very difficult. A lot of places have a long interview that you end up burning a whole day on it and you only have so many vacation and sick days

Yep. Say you have ten days of vacation per year (welcome to the USA!) This means you can “get serious” with max 10 companies per year. I’ve in the past interviewed with that many companies in only a month! You need to be very creative with your time to do serious interviewing while still working.

Re: How to Quit a Top Tier Tech Job

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post #181

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The previous comment's scenario was "A Facebook employee", with no mention of another income. Also, many people's spouses are students, or non-highly remunerated.

Hence the other question, "Does paying for childcare not seem strange for a one-income family?"

Not if there is only one parent, or the other parent is a full time student.
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