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Post by floatboth »

fulafel wrote: post #208
floatboth wrote: post #179

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ROCK64! http://wiki.pine64.org/index.php/ROCK64_Main_Page 4 gigabytes of LPDDR3. USB 3. GbE. eMMC. Onboard SPI flash. Unfortunately Mali GPU, but lima is actively developed now…

Is there a stable Os for it that gets timely security patches etc? (Not that Raspbian does too well here either..)

Arch Linux ARM! https://github.com/m01/rock64-arch-linux-build (it's literally generic aarch64 arch, no more "for this board")

and really any Linux distro can be installed like that

+ "soon", FreeBSD (possible to boot already, but very few drivers have been already written https://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-arm/2018-Februar...)

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Post by morganvachon »

cr0sh wrote: post #188
jimmies wrote: post #21

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To me, that makes a lot of sense. Having only one architecture to support and one image to rule them all across the product line is quite a great thing to have. The other day, there was a person who had a "reddit gold" bounty for the first person who can help them get the Pi 0 online. The person basically couldn't get the Pi Zero on the wireless network. They had no USB-OTG adapter or mini HDMI adapter they could use…

I'd love to give reddit gold (if I had any) to anyone who could point me to a source for the Pi Zero at the price point it was originally supposed to be selling at: $5.00 I have yet to find it - you can get them cheap, but no where near what the RPi Foundation advertised them at when they first were announced/launched.

I got my last two Pi Zero units from Vilros[1], they have the Zero W for $10 which is the intended price from the RPi Foundation. To me, it's worth the extra $5 for WiFi/BT with no dongles.

[1] https://www.vilros.com/shop/raspberry-pi/raspberry-pi-zero-w...

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Post by ChuckMcM »

jwbensley wrote: post #199
Hello71 wrote: post #187

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wait, since when can gigabit ethernet transmit more than a gigabit per second?

Are you referring to this? "GbE is 1250Mbps" 1.25Gbps is the "gross" bit rate for 1000BASE-T Ethernet. This is because it uses 8b/10b encoding on the wire (meaning there is a 25% overhead): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/8b/10b_encoding 1000Mbps is essentially the "net" bit rate available to the Ethernet protocol.

exactly right. Different standards claim different things, but ethernet tries to do the "right" thing and have the number in the name be the actual number of bits per second you get through the thing. Unlike say serial ports where 9600 bits per second isn't 1200 8 bit bytes per second, its only 960 8 bit bytes per second because of a start bit and stop bit. This can be even worse on serial protocols with forward error correction where up to a third of the bits going across the wire are for error correction and/or clock recovery.

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Post by alexissantos »

kingosticks wrote: post #109
gambiting wrote: post #95

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For this(and other) reason, the Asus Tinker Board looks like the superior choice, for very little more money than the Pi3: https://www.asus.com/uk/Single-Board-Computer/Tinker-Board/

The last time I checked out the Asus Tinker it was still suffering from horrendous software support and cost nearly twice as much in the UK (which it still does, £32 vs £55). So unless you NEED those extra features, I strongly disagree.

I can vouch. As of November 2017, software support was still pretty rough.

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Post by ekianjo »

r_singh wrote: post #87
ekianjo wrote: post #75

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The XU4 from Odroid is even better than the C2. There is virtually no reason to get the C2 now.

I agree, the XU4 is way better than the C2. > There is virtually no reason to get the C2 now I disagree with this though. The price difference between the two isn't insignificant. If someone intends to deploy hundreds of devices for an IoT application the price difference between the 2 would be one of the reasons to choose the C2; the other reasons would be size and heating problems.

fair point. I was considering the case of a single user.

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Post by candiodari »

qalmakka wrote: post #54
jimmies wrote: post #21

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To me, that makes a lot of sense. Having only one architecture to support and one image to rule them all across the product line is quite a great thing to have. The other day, there was a person who had a "reddit gold" bounty for the first person who can help them get the Pi 0 online. The person basically couldn't get the Pi Zero on the wireless network. They had no USB-OTG adapter or mini HDMI adapter they could use…

Yes, but then promoting the Raspberry Pi as "64 bit product" seems almost gimmicky to me. Ok, you switched to an AArch64 chip, but that was simply because it's what your supplier was producing at that time. It makes no sense to me to promote a feature you don't support or make use of, if not for simple and pure marketing reasons.

Reminds me of the 386 when 8M ram was quite a lot. 4 Gigs address space ! Few people even had hard drives that held 4 gigs.

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Post by Greg-J »

Yaggo wrote: post #61

I wish they would finally expose the data lines for the second camera in their "hobbyist" boards as well. Currently the dual camera setup is supported only by Compute Module, but it's cumbersome to use because the bulky I/O board (and expensive). The foundation is overlooking the most unique feature of the Broadcom chipset, the 3D video support. They already have implemented the software/driver side, so only thing re…

I went from never soldering circuitry or working with a schematic to designing a PCB (the CMIO schematics are freely available and easy to reverse engineer even for someone with very limited knowledge), having it printed, and build it myself using 0603 and 0805 SMD components.

It's really not that hard or expensive to do it yourself, and it's a fun little side project. Try it out.

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Post by danellis »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #167
SmellyGeekBoy wrote: post #115

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As a Brit who grew up in the 80s / 90s I got the reference, shame it seems to have gone over the heads of some people ;)

No Archipides yet.

You mean Archimedes? It's already an ARM-based computer that can run RISC OS, so that's some kind of recursive loop.

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Post by robotmay »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #137
robotmay wrote: post #50

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I really wish it was easier to find movies in other languages to help learning. I've been half-heartedly trying to learn French the past few years but it's deceptively hard to either find a decent streaming service, or to find torrents with French audio + subtitles. Strangely it was quite easy when I had a stab at Swedish a few years ago; a number of their TV channels have a free streaming service that you can access…

Almost everything I've looked at on Netflix (UK) seems to be available with either French audio or subs. Might be worth a look. Rick & Morty IIRC offered 6 language options.

Ooh I didn't know that, I'll give it a go!
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