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Re: Developer Survey Results

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post #203

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks :-) Women at 2% is super discouraging, but it's also odd to believe that there is miscounting of gender. I hope it's just some bias in the amount of people of the two genders that replied to the questions.

(sorry for the sloppy fake news! it's 7% women, not 2%)

Oh ok that is more credible (unfortunately... Since very low as well). Thanks for the rectification.

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Remember that this data is representative of Stack Overflow's audience, not of the entire industry.

I'd say that a pretty representative swath of the industry visits StackOverflow. What segment of the industry do you think is missing in this representation?

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post #12

Cool to see Redis to be in top position. For what is worth, Redis confessed to love developers, so it is definitely a reciprocal feeling. Btw surprised to see "contributing to OSS" at ~50%. Looks like an incredibly high number (cit. Trump), so would be awesome to see this question more fine grained next time. This may be an indirect measure of all the work that goes into OSS to make it sustainable. I would like to se…

> Btw surprised to see "contributing to OSS" at ~50%. Looks like an incredibly high number

Not every OSS project is massive and mature, like Linux or Firefox. I use a fair bit of OSS tools and libraries in my job and not all of them are highly polished. So when I run into an issue, I'll file a bug and usually supply a fix if I can.

Given the sheer volume of OSS out there and the ease with which one can make contributions, 50% seems surprisingly low to me. My best guess is that some developers are afraid to contribute.

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There seem to be a lot more young developers than old developers. But, why? I can only assume that either, the number of developers is increasing (more and more young people entering the work force), or a lot of people stop being software engineers after 8 years. People usually work between the ages 22 and 65, so given a even distribution, if the industry isn't growing by leaps and bounds, the average work experience…

Growth of technology and an increase in job openings. Plus, a bit of cultural shift too. I think a lot of older developers grew up during a time when spending a lot of time using technology was considered weird. While today, not using technology all the time is what is weird.

Also, software developers are much more highly regarded by young people now than ever before. There's this image of the young, rich entrepreneur creating products that everyone loves, and people want to be this. So a lot more smart people get into the industry because it's the cool place to be, hence the rise of "brogrammers."

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> Most developers feel that management is ultimately most accountable for unethical results of code. Just under 20% of respondents said that a developer who writes code used for unethical purposes is most responsible. This kind of surprised me. On the one hand, we complain about being considered code monkeys and mere "implementors," but on the other hand, if we're asked to code something unethical, well "we're just f…

You should certainly report it to the appropriate managers. But, ultimately, ethics is highly subjective: and it's not your choice. You've sold your time to the company and have to produce the products it makes: even if you don't like their ads or product. You can say no, they can fire you and hire someone just like you and the product would still get made.

Being a doctor or developer is entirely different. The doctor has much more freedom in deciding a course of action. As a developer you have very little power to decide what get's produced, because it's not your job function: that's what product managers are for.

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Remember that this data is representative of Stack Overflow's audience, not of the entire industry.

I'd say that a pretty representative swath of the industry visits StackOverflow. What segment of the industry do you think is missing in this representation?

Different sectors of the industry use StackOverflow in varying amounts. Systems programmers on the whole probably use SO a lot less than JavaScript programmers, for example. More senior engineers use it less than more junior engineers. And so on.

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post #12

Cool to see Redis to be in top position. For what is worth, Redis confessed to love developers, so it is definitely a reciprocal feeling. Btw surprised to see "contributing to OSS" at ~50%. Looks like an incredibly high number (cit. Trump), so would be awesome to see this question more fine grained next time. This may be an indirect measure of all the work that goes into OSS to make it sustainable. I would like to se…

Uploaded a one liner package to NPM = contributed to OSS.

Re: Developer Survey Results

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There seem to be a lot more young developers than old developers. But, why? I can only assume that either, the number of developers is increasing (more and more young people entering the work force), or a lot of people stop being software engineers after 8 years. People usually work between the ages 22 and 65, so given a even distribution, if the industry isn't growing by leaps and bounds, the average work experience…

It could also be that more experienced developers don’t have time to take surveys.

Re: Developer Survey Results

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It looks like most people stay at a job for just a year or 2. But, it would have been interesting to see a question as to why they left: were they forced out due to something the company did, or did they leave of their own accord for a higher salary (that was top ranked for how they assess a job)?

Re: Developer Survey Results

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post #31

FTA : > Race and Ethnicity > Sexual Orientation Could we agree that : 1/ a coder is a coder, no matter his color, his sexual orientation, his whatever 2/ the notion of "race" is problematic at best And before I get down voted : who cares about a statistic about sexual orientation or ethnicity in a survey about IT ? I mean honestly.

> who cares about a statistic about sexual orientation or ethnicity in a survey about IT People trying to make the IT industry accessible to all regardless of sexual orientation or ethnicity, who want to check in on how we're doing at that?

If you hire 50 random people (uniform distribution) the probability to get twice (or more than twice) as many employees of one sex as the other sex is about 3.5%. If you add ethnicity, age, sexual orientation etc. to the mix you will rarely get a random sample with all attributes proportional to their occurrence in population. Without quotas it will be really hard to be accessible to all regardless of [a long and ever expanding list of attributes].
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