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Facebook Overhauls News Feed to Focus on What Friends and Family Share

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I wonder if enough of the core-base was eroding that they were forced to make this change. I've been logged out of Facebook since October, and I know a few other friends who have as well. That's not really relevant, except that this group all had membership on Facebook at the 1 year mark - early 2005.

Most people I know use facebook to chat in private groups or 1 on 1.

Nobody is posting or reading stuff in public... Except older mostly female people (i.e. the "my aunt" stereotype).

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I wonder if enough of the core-base was eroding that they were forced to make this change. I've been logged out of Facebook since October, and I know a few other friends who have as well. That's not really relevant, except that this group all had membership on Facebook at the 1 year mark - early 2005.

Yeah exactly the same for me. Friends communicate and share photos and news on WhatsApp now, not Facebook. Facebook has become a kind of shit version of Reddit where everything in the news feed is basically stuff from Reddit that has been shared by friends. It used to be original messages from friends.

> a kind of shit version of Reddit

This!

Intermixed with ads, game invites, racist/populist images, and those silly heart glitter greeting cards stuff...

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The newsfeed should be a cronological list of posts from your sources. Then you could have some filter functionality that YOU control

I remember when Google+ was like that. It was so perfect. You could even set a frequency (with a slider!) for posts from each individual source.

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Are clicks the majority of revenue for FB? An ad unit that fills a users screen for a few second as they scroll throughout the day every day is super super valuable to brand advertising. I think that’s ~$450 billion of the total ~$500 billion total annual global ad spend. To me browsing the fb feed is a lot like like flipping through tv channels used to be. Brand advertising loved that too. I’d think the More people…

How many people are aware that the list of interests directing Facebook ads are easily visible and editable? Settings | Ads | Your Interests It's really interesting to see the full scope of the interests FB has gathered over time. Some of them are pretty hilarious. They have a seemingly huge ontology of every subject you could think of. If you methodically go through an remove every interest, the ads suddenly become…

I did the same and filled it with things that are relevant to me, and now my ads are generally enjoyable — things I might not have otherwise known about.

There was a lot of cruft in there from the early days when it was easy to like everything. But after the cleanout my ads are definitely better.

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Just... get your real friends to text you. If they won't text you, they're not your real friends. (This isn't always true, but I'd say that it's 95% accurate.) I'm not being condescending or pretentious. I have done this, over the last few months, and it's helped me to realize who's really worth having in my life on a daily basis, and who's not.

I don't want my friends texting me everything. That's far more disruptive than a passive feed I can glance at. And I don't want to text my friends everything either. One of the great things about Facebook is the unexpected social interactions. I post a picture and someone I haven't talked to in a while comments something really great on it and sparks a conversation and rekindles the friendship. That's not going to ha…

We have a Telegram group with all the important people.

Just mute it so you can passively read it. And if it's something specifically for you they can @handle you.

Also we have more specific groups for gaming, memes, serious, homework,...

Oh and a "huge" group were we can add new people at first, that somebody randomly met somewhere. So they can maybe get friends with some of the others too.

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Josh Marshall just now: "Announcement to publishers who reshaped business models around Facebook. Bye." https://twitter.com/joshtpm/status/951615904760172545

If it's bad for journalists and advertisers then it's good for users.

These days I’m extremely skeptical of recently created accounts whose only comments are political and two of which bash journalists.

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Wow, who are your friends? I regularly interact with people I'm not angry at, even on Facebook.

I have a perfectly lovely set of friends, who often post lovely things. But when I think back to all the “long comments” and “spark conversation” type posts, they’re not lovely. They are politics or other things that spark FB’s equivalent of a flame war. So my fear is that using those things to indicate these posts should be more prominent is going to be a tricky thing for them to get right. Getting a computer to dec…

That is a good statement of the problem. It seems like I've read about some pretty effective tone analysis for English, at least, that might be helpful.

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As someone who runs a business partly driven by people who use Facebook as a crappy replacement for RSS, I can confirm. Facebook made a change a while back where people who explicitly followed my page to keep up to date on local events and businesses suddenly were not seeing anything I posted. I had to start paying Facebook to keep them showing things to people, but even that is far slower than it had been. Out of ab…

Here's your experience summed up in comic form: http://theoatmeal.com/comics/reaching_people Seems to be a common thing.

Damn that's so true.

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Which isn't necessarily a bad thing... I pay to get access to my audience. I wish I only paid to get access to a new expanded audience, but I understand the reality of business. My main complaint is, people explicitly chose to follow my content and got used to seeing it... and now it's all gone. They still follow, but they don't see. Even if I pay, it's not guaranteed to hit the same audience I had before.

I'm curious, what kind of ad rates are you seeing from Facebook to appeal to people locally in that small town? Do you consider it expensive? Does it seem artificially high (ie way out of line with what other local ad platforms might have been in the past such as a small town newspaper or radio station), or does Facebook seem to properly proportion the rates down based on the value of a small local economy etc etc? I…

Facebook gives you the option of how much to pay and says how many people you may reach with that money. I currently pay $1 per day, which lets me reach about 800 out of my 2000 followers every week. Each post ends up being seen by 50-100 people unless someone interacts with it (such as a like, share, etc), then it can get up around 200-500 depending on the interaction.

I have no idea what a newspaper would charge for similar exposure, but I can tell you that at $1 per day, I'm often paying more money than I'm making from my site.

For comparison, six months ago I was reaching nearly 100% of my followers each week and each post would easily be seen by 500 people no matter what. It's been an absolutely catastrophic drop-off.

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As someone who runs a business partly driven by people who use Facebook as a crappy replacement for RSS, I can confirm. Facebook made a change a while back where people who explicitly followed my page to keep up to date on local events and businesses suddenly were not seeing anything I posted. I had to start paying Facebook to keep them showing things to people, but even that is far slower than it had been. Out of ab…

SMS marketing is an option if your userbase isn't in to using the internet enough for email notifications to be an alternative to facebook updates.

I really do need to set up more mailing lists. I had it set up but I always got far greater reactions and click-through from Facebook so I haven't fully explored all my email options. Seems like it's time to jump back on that.
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