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Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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I’m a Silicon Valley engineer/founder who attends “light” versions of this: basically mini Burning Man-esque parties among trusted groups of friends, where “orgiastic” behavior is present, but not expected.

My only point is that not all similar events prominently feature the male/female power dynamic described in this article.

Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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This, basically. The kinds of parties being described aren't all that unusual for the bay area. It's certainly not isolated to tech. Meet interesting people, network. You'll figure it out eventually.

Where do I start meeting people? Seek out networking events online?

If you’re just in it for the orgies then Burning Man might disappoint you, but if you look into the culture and it sounds like your thing, then seek out Burning Man events: Decompression/precompression events, theme camp fundraisers, help with art projects, other music and art events.

Required reading: https://burningman.org/culture/ especially https://burningman.org/culture/philosophical-center/10-princ...

Relatively friendly community: https://www.reddit.com/r/burningman

Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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This sounds like something out of Eyes Wide Shut, but with social awkwardness, baggy dad jeans, and crocs and socks... Orgies are fine. I've never been to one and have no desire to go to one. The real issue here is the power-asymmetry between the men and women involved Heck, there are low-rent "eyes wide shut" style events in Houston which are distinctly lower middle class. Glowing bracelets to color code your availa…

My honor, mind, and optimism are surviving the sex parties of the poly and BDSM scene just fine, thank you very much.

My honor, mind, and optimism are surviving the sex parties of the poly and BDSM scene just fine, thank you very much.

Thank you for that. I dated a poly woman at one point. Not all parties are the same. From my experience, there is a definite rationality and morality associated with the poly scene which is based on consent. I'm not saying that pleasure is bad. Nihilistic pleasure without regard to anything else is pessimistic and simply doesn't lead to good things in the long run. Even Orthodox Jewish teaching recognizes certain kinds of sexual pleasure as a mitzvah. (In fact, sex has been shown by researchers to encourage neurogenesis. One grows more brain when one has good sex.)

Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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It's not just high-rolling ones. Over the last few years I've been involved in the furniture and construction industries and their "decadent underbellies" are just as bad if not worse than what I've seen in tech, finance and elsewhere. According to many insiders I know in the concrete world, they have the most insane industry parties. Carpeting is pretty crazy too from what I've seen. It's not unique to any industry.

Chemical engines have a rep for really hard drinking as do civils I have heard (at a top 5 consultancy) a discussion of the best computer cleaning fluids to make hooch with.

A lot of professions are associated with drinking, it's not the same as hedonistic decadence delivered by dumb money

Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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In all honesty - why is this seen as such a bad thing. So many well off people engage in this sexualised fantasy behaviour who are monied / well off.

I would expect a bit more from a Bloomberg presenter but then again superficiality is clearly what she needs to sell her book.

This is honestly nothing new at all unless you're a prude

Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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Putting silicon valley in the title == free clicks for an otherwise inconsequential article / book.

I agree with you that SV in titles has largely become linkbait but in this case it seems reasonably accurate. We're pretty careful to take linkbait out of titles on HN, but beyond the gratuitous "Inside" I didn't see a lot. I suppose we could s/dark side/side/ as well.

So, 4 prominent people who attended the party (including one woman who stayed until 5AM), have attached their personal names to statements saying this article's claims are fantastical. Combined with the fact that nearly all the claims are anonymously sourced, I don't see how you could claim it seems reasonably accurate, unless you are experiencing confirmation bias (which is what I think happened here).

Re: Silicon Valley's Secretive, Orgiastic Side

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post #205

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This, basically. The kinds of parties being described aren't all that unusual for the bay area. It's certainly not isolated to tech. Meet interesting people, network. You'll figure it out eventually.

Where do I start meeting people? Seek out networking events online?

There aren't really "networking events". It's a community of like-minded people that aren't particularly eager to add more people to the community that aren't also like-minded.

That aside, they can be fairly inclusive.

I got involved in the community in 2002. I was a typical dot-com nerd. I'd been doing some amateur rocketry events in the black rock desert and had heard about Burning Man. Eventually, I decided I had to go. Got introduced to a group of people that had a camp, they discovered I was terribly useful (I could weld, machine, fix electronics, repair generators, build things, etc), and the rest was history.

I went, met a tremendous number of people, cultivated lots of friendships and from there became privy to all the other inter-related things happening in the bay area, including the kinds of parties described above. The debauchery I've had the opportunity to participate in is quite extensive.

Be useful, be nice, be non-judgmental, go meet people, get involved, do stuff, become part of the community and you'll enjoy similar opportunities.

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