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Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by r3bl » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 7:27 AM UTC

bischofs wrote: post #105

electic wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

Ive found on my 16GB phone I can either have the facebook app or every other app that I want but not both at the same time . It takes up an insane amount of space for a mobile app and they for some reason need to update it once a week. Needless to say I use the browser now to check fb.

Out of curiosity, why did you have it installed in the first place instead of just using your browser?

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by hsrada » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 7:36 AM UTC

Don't people here use the 'block newsfeed' extensions?

I think that's a nice middle ground to be on. I can still participate in groups that I'm a member of, can still chat with friends, while not have the awfulness that is the newsfeed shoved down my mind.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by truthisheree1 » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 7:39 AM UTC

We need an AI-driven adblocker that can recognize ads at the beginning of a video and skip them.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by rhizome » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 7:53 AM UTC

skeleton wrote: post #132

fpisfun wrote: post #60

They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

I formed the opinion that Facebook (the service) was in trouble back in 2014-2015 when I noticed the site appeared to becoming more about interaction with content posted by 'meme pages' and such rather than content produced by friends. Facebook as a company will probably be fine as it has its tentacles in all sorts of places now.

I think a lot of that has to do with the popularization of the meme (image macro) as a form of internet creativity. Facebook certainly was an outlet for that and they didn't impose much if anything to slow it down, but so was everywhere else you can post an image.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by richardknop » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 8:00 AM UTC

electic wrote: post #56

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

The greatest thing I did was delete Facebook off my phone. Here are the benefits I discovered: - I didn't miss anything. Turns out there wasn't any real quality content on there anyway. - My battery lasts 2x longer. - I seem to be happier. No joke. With all the rage articles and click bait headlines gone, I am far more happier. - I am way more informed now. I visit allsides.com and get the news there. I quickly get u…

Agreed. I have deleted Facebook app from my phone and it has been great since then. I feel like I waste less time scrolling through meaningless feed of pictures, posts and ads algorithmically crafted to be as addictive as possible.

I have also stopped using the main FB website. I only use messenger.com to talk to my friends but no need to go to the main website anymore.

The only reason why I haven't deleted my FB account completely yet is because I got a lot of pictures on FB and haven't found a convenient way to export them yet. So I might keep my FB account just as free cloud storage for my pictures, that's all.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by richardknop » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 8:03 AM UTC

hobarrera wrote: post #196

richardknop wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For that all you need is messenger app on your phone and messenger.com on your computer. You don’t need Facebook main app or website.

Actually, you can even have the Messenger app with no Facebook account. Just sign in with your phone number, and it'll pick up acquaintances from your contact book (much like WhatsApp). You can still search for other people, but don't need an FB account.

Signing up with phone number doesn't work for lots of young people I suspect. We don't have phone numbers of friends anymore, for example I have no phone numbers of even my closest friends, we have been communicating via internet since we have been teenagers (started with ICQ, then moved to emails then FB then whatsapp, never really needed to share our phone numbers as we don't ever call anybody nor send SMS).

This might be just specific to very international people like me who travel and work in many different countries so our phone numbers change often and keeping track of that is almost impossible.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by richardknop » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 8:06 AM UTC

dannyw wrote: post #195

richardknop wrote: post #194

Earlier quoted context omitted.

None of my extended friends around the world (late twenties so we are not that old) nor my family use Snapchat. So in my opinion Snapchat is so niche and has such narrow group of users it will never replace what Facebook used to be.

People grow in age. The audience that is using Snapchat now (I talk to a dozen friends on Snapchat) are going to keep using Snapchat (I haven’t seen any age based dropoff), and younger people start using Snapchat. I don’t even have some fairly close friends on FB!

Sure but I doubt it. For example after initial students on college campuses who started using Facebook, it has spread to older generations and people in 30s, 40s even 50s now use Facebook.

With Snapchat I don't see such trend. It has no website, only a confusing mobile app with horrid UX that most people can't figure out and is mostly used for adding pig noses and cat ears to pictures by teenagers.

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Post by otteliotto » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 8:27 AM UTC

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

ITT: the good old facebook-is-useless-wake-up-sheeple circlejerk.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by skc » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 8:36 AM UTC

fpisfun wrote: post #60

They're dying, it may be a very slow death but the process has begun. They will become like Yahoo, Myspace, Aol, etc. They are not a Google that can pivot and do a number of different things. Also I've come to realize that Google has a much different relationship with it's users, Google doesn't try to suck up all your time it just tries to give you what you want when you want it, Facebook tries to gamify everything s…

Really?

Every SV think piece I read has Facebook, Apple, Google and Amazon as the unassailable leaders of the industry.

HN comments would have one believe that everybody hates Facebook when the reality is that most regular people find it very useful.

And on top of that, there is a certain amount of hypocrisy here. How many HN commenters who hate Facebook, still work for startups that have (and profit off of) a Facebook presence?

I'd bet most.

Re: Facebook Will Introduce Ads as Videos Start, a Move Long Resisted

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Post by mrweasel » Fri, Dec 15, 2017, 8:41 AM UTC

propman wrote: post #32

Facebook has become almost completely useless to me yet I waste so much time on it every day. No one posts anything on it except like 3 guys who post 10 times a day that I barely know yet find their extremist political posts mind numbingly amusing. The news on there is trash, I much prefer the WSJ and if I want sensationalist things I'll go to Reddit and my tastes are more niche now so I have some forums I visit occa…

> No one posts anything on it

I've been seeing the same thing, almost everything is links, clickbait or "tests" that everyone just re-shares. Very few people are posting any original content any more.

Currently I think Messenger is what's keeping people from abandoning Facebook.