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Introducing Surface Book 2

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Nice to see Microsoft bringing new consumer hardware to market. In the meantime, all Surface Pro 4 i7 devices become unusable due to graphic issues.

The brilliant concepts by Microsoft are so amateuristically executed. I learned my lesson and am staying away.

https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/forum/surfpro4-s...

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most creative professionals would disagree that ntrig is anywhere near parity. I work in the field and everyone uses Wacoms of some sort. There was initial excitement when the 1st generation launched with actual Wacom technology, as a lot of us do work in Windows, but it quickly fizzled when Microsoft cheaped out and went with less performant ntrig digitizers.

It's a tradeoff. The old SP1s and SP2s with Wacom digitizers get funky at the edges because of how Wacom's technology works. IIRC it's a big array of sensors behind the screen, and they have to extend past the edges of the sensing area to keep accuracy workable across the surface. If you're out at the edge of the grid it can't measure the pen's position accurately. With Wacom's Intuos tablets you've probably noticed…

Does the iPad Pro work similarly to either of those?

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This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

Yeah it's really frustrating. * this page is an ad copy with very little of interest * the store page ( https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/d/surface-book-2/8MCPZ... ) has no date, no price and only hints at specs (you can pick a model but have no idea that e.g. the 13.5" i5 is iGP and the i7 is dGPU) * https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/surface/devices/surface-book... has the actual stuff you want, with a detailed sp…

Neither of those product pages has a photo of the keyboard. I know they are trying to sell it as a surface device with other great input methods, but come one, people still want to type on their notebooks.

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This is the most beautiful laptop/computer I've seen in a long time, it hits all the right buttons for me:

it has great battery life, it comes in 15" and you can detach for tablet mode it has a pen (so I don't have to have ipad pro + laptop) touchscreen is just better, I've seen people use it, and it is better then my macbook air it has nvidia 1060 so I can play games

I need to figure out how to work on this, as it has Windows and I am game. I need some really good terminal and graphical vim and I will be golden.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

As a former advertising executive, I can tell you what the problem is here. The writer and his boss who approved the copy aren't addressing the customer, they're addressing the boss's boss. In a dysfunctional organization like Microsoft, communicating up rather than out is how you get promoted. It's a rare Microsoft employee who moves up the ladder by thinking about the customer.

Capitalism is fun

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post #186

Having recently used a XPS 13, original Surface Book, Surface laptop, Surface Pro, and Lenovo T560, the Surface laptop is the clear winner for me. Definitely worth a look if you're looking for good Windows hardware, and don't need the discrete graphics capability of the Surface Book.

Is this for software development (assuming yes since we're on HN)? I'm currently in the process of making this choice. Looking at Lenovo T470p/Dell XPS 13/15. If I'm doing linux development is it worth even thinking about the surface laptop?

Tried the XPS15, keyboard was terrible.

Went with T470P i7-7700HQ with 2560x1440 screen, literally haven't switch home desktop on since I got it.

Works great with fedora as well (except touchpad driver issue that's in the works) everything works great out the box.

Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

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This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

As a former advertising executive, I can tell you what the problem is here. The writer and his boss who approved the copy aren't addressing the customer, they're addressing the boss's boss. In a dysfunctional organization like Microsoft, communicating up rather than out is how you get promoted. It's a rare Microsoft employee who moves up the ladder by thinking about the customer.

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Re: Introducing Surface Book 2

#220

This is a good example of how Microsoft often does marketing poorly. The text reads like a script for an in-person product launch. On the page it doesn't even make sense "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission – to empower every person and every organization on the planet to achieve more – it’s powerful." What? And then after all of that, you click through to the store and there's no pricing informat…

I really can't get over the opening sentence. "When you think about Microsoft and you hear our mission, it’s powerful."

If I were editing this, I think I would have struck that entire first paragraph.
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