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Post by LeifCarrotson »

sergiotapia wrote: post #85
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #66

I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

I uploaded full seasons of a very old 90s cartoon and my account is disabled. I cannot even purchase YouTube TV to try it out. Of course, reaching out to support is moot - their RoboSupport sucks. I will never purchase a Google product if I can help it and will steer clear of them in any team setting where I can affect the decision.

> my account

You use the singular form of "account", which is interesting to me. Are they preventing you in some way (IP address tracking, device tracking, etc) from creating a new account? Why would you not do so?

I wholeheartedly agree that a Youtube violation should not affect your other Google products, like a laptop or email account. Similarly, an Amazon problem should not affect an AWS account. But I will concede that they're within their rights to disable your Youtube account for uploading copyrighted material.

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Post by rfdub »

bubblethink wrote: post #56

I hate this trend of dumbing down product specifications. I don't know who started it (probably Apple?), but everyone does it now. Like what fucking i5 or i7 processor ? Is the storage soldered even for the nvme option ? It doesn't help that Intel keeps playing tricks with their naming either. i7 used to be quad core, then it became dual core for thin laptops. Now they are back to low freq quad core in some SKUs. For…

Not to mention that most so called "Reviews" these days are just a rote listing of the products features from company press releases.

I can't count the number of laptop / smartphone reviews I've seen the last couple of years that don't even contain a single benchmark. The extent of the actual "reviewing" that takes place is some glib anecdote about how "there didn't seem to be much noticeable lag" or some other contrite BS.

I hate this race to the bottom of the customers presumed intelligence.

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Post by deaddodo »

busterarm wrote: post #113
notheguyouthink wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Previously everything of mine went through Google. Email, phone, phone number, search, etc. I've migrated everything away (except Google Voice) for this very reason. My life would have came to a grinding halt if they banned me, and I couldn't even email them about it.

What was your gmail alternative? I tried to switch everything to Lavabit, but then a month later the Snowden thing happened...that didn't last (and I'm still out all that money)

I use Zoho Mail without any issues.

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Post by ballenf »

colemannugent wrote: post #91
bubblethink wrote: post #56

I hate this trend of dumbing down product specifications. I don't know who started it (probably Apple?), but everyone does it now. Like what fucking i5 or i7 processor ? Is the storage soldered even for the nvme option ? It doesn't help that Intel keeps playing tricks with their naming either. i7 used to be quad core, then it became dual core for thin laptops. Now they are back to low freq quad core in some SKUs. For…

I think the reason why things like this piss people like us off is because this product isn't targeted at us. "Normal" people don't care what is in a device as long as they can justify the cost with the perceived value they see in the device. For them the sticker saying "i7" on the laptop makes it a "top-of-the-line" laptop and justifies the cost as they expect to pay more for "top-of-the-line".

And some of us here would much rather have benchmarks for software we use rather than # of cores or clock speed. I'd like to know how long it takes for my IDE to spin up, important websites to render.

And whether it will cook my lap and get as loud as a jet engine if I push it a little.

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Post by morganvachon »

victorhooi wrote: post #126
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #66

I think a major issue is what happens if Google locks your account for some reason. There have been instances in the past where Google has locked the account of a user for some TOS violations. http://m.gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/news/google-pixel-reseller... http://m.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/aug/1/jordan-b-peters... http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-08-21/one-statistics-prof... Given that Google has a propensity…

Thanks for bringing that up. However, te truth is often a bit more nuanced (although it doesn't make for as good headlines). Dissecting your three examples. In the first case, (and based on their own statements) those people were buying up phones by the hundreds, shipping them to a single physical address and then scalping over the internet. It's basically fraud. So yes, they probably got picked up by an automated al…

"In the first case, (and based on their own statements) those people were buying up phones by the hundreds, shipping them to a single physical address and then scalping over the internet.

It's basically fraud. So yes, they probably got picked up by an automated algorithm that looks for hijacking/CC fraud or bot-nets."

No, it's not "basically fraud". Yes, it violates Google's terms, and banning the customers from using Fi would have been a reasonable response, but Google's TOS is not enshrined in criminal law. Unless your position at Google is on the legal team, you might want to be careful about throwing around phrases like that with nothing to back it up. By admitting you work there, you are officially speaking for the company with such statements.

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Post by Anon1096 »

eweise wrote: post #209
BinaryIdiot wrote: post #163

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> You violated the law and their (rather reasonable in this case) terms of service and are shocked to find they'd rather not do business with you? When I worked in the Intelligence Community I had to go through multiple FBI investigations and polygraphs. Every single one of them asked me about laws I may have violated in the past. One of the agents even said (paraphrased, of course) "Maybe you downloaded some movies?…

Is downloading movies illegal?

Sharing copyrighted content is

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Post by leephillips »

The point of these things is to install real Linux on them. The hardware is excellent and they make great laptops for doing real work. Here are some notes about installing Xubuntu on the 2013 model. I hope some of this transfers to newer models:

https://lee-phillips.org/pxsetup/

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Post by beagle3 »

Nightshaxx wrote: post #61
chrissnell wrote: post #42

What's the experience like for Linux-on-Chromebook these days? Can I expect hardware support that's equal of what I get with a Lenovo T470s?

It's pretty great (I don't have one, but I have heard universal positivity for it) That said, you loose a lot of the security features that come with a Chromebook when you enable Dev mode.

Does it still take one wrong key press at the wrong time during boot to delete all local files when in dev mode?

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Post by eikenberry »

busterarm wrote: post #113
notheguyouthink wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Previously everything of mine went through Google. Email, phone, phone number, search, etc. I've migrated everything away (except Google Voice) for this very reason. My life would have came to a grinding halt if they banned me, and I couldn't even email them about it.

What was your gmail alternative? I tried to switch everything to Lavabit, but then a month later the Snowden thing happened...that didn't last (and I'm still out all that money)

If you are using a your own domain, if you use gandi.net or transfer there you get pretty decent basic email for free with the ability to add to it for reasonable prices. If I were to ever tire of self-hosting my email, I'd probably switch to them.
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