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Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by seanp2k2 »

mgkimsal wrote: post #206
new299 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are good options for replacing Confluence? I looked at available open source wiki's maybe 1 or 2 years ago and there seems to be nothing that was as easy to use for non-technical people (which would include having WYSIWYG style editing). Are there any good options now?

A wiki that allows referencing to a ticketing system - the way you can tie confluence docs to jira - is, imo, one of the unique tie-ins I've not seen replicated in any other system. Check list of items in confluence? Click and ... bam - tickets where you can track discussion, media, code, etc. Link back to the definition doc, and the doc has a status view of the ticket(s). I've wondered if they've got some patent on…

The JIRA Stash integration is also nice. Create a bug in JIRA and reference a release tag (which integrates with Stash), create a branch to fix it right from the ticket, ticket shows when that branch gets a PR and is eventually merged. It's possible to e.g. close the ticket when the bug fix gets merged too.

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Post by skrebbel »

ComputerGuru wrote: post #110
cpursley wrote: post #56

My only question is, which Slack alternative does not use half my CPUs and suck down my battery just to run ideally in the background?

It’s not slack but electron. We’ve been floating the idea of developing a native client for slack (we have experience in this field, having developed a Windows client for iMessage) but haven’t decided if it would be worth our while.

VS Code is also Electron and it uses way less CPU and battery life for a significantly more complex task.

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Post by andrewl »

mgkimsal wrote: post #206
new299 wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are good options for replacing Confluence? I looked at available open source wiki's maybe 1 or 2 years ago and there seems to be nothing that was as easy to use for non-technical people (which would include having WYSIWYG style editing). Are there any good options now?

A wiki that allows referencing to a ticketing system - the way you can tie confluence docs to jira - is, imo, one of the unique tie-ins I've not seen replicated in any other system. Check list of items in confluence? Click and ... bam - tickets where you can track discussion, media, code, etc. Link back to the definition doc, and the doc has a status view of the ticket(s). I've wondered if they've got some patent on…

The FogBugz project management system has pretty good integration between its case system and its wikis.

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Post by scaryclam »

neilsimp1 wrote: post #38
lukepothier wrote: post #36

Fingers crossed it has desktop clients that aren't written in Electron...

Have you noticed Slack slow down/use too many resources as a result of being an Electron app? Honest question, I've never used Slack, but have used other Electron apps and never really have any issues.

We moved away from slack due to it crashing peoples desktops (Mac, Windows and Linux all have had this problem). I've not used other electron apps though, so maybe I'll stop blaming the underlying tech :)

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Post by unethical_ban »

new299 wrote: post #174
SomeHacker44 wrote: post #141

As the head of a company that uses HipChat... Thank you Atlassian. We have intended to migrate to the (free and better) Mattermost for a long time and just have been waiting for it to hit the top of our priority list. Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path and 50% more cost, makes this an easier choice. You have been abandoning us on JIRA and Confluence as…

What are good options for replacing Confluence? I looked at available open source wiki's maybe 1 or 2 years ago and there seems to be nothing that was as easy to use for non-technical people (which would include having WYSIWYG style editing). Are there any good options now?

It's interesting. Confluence's "user friendly" editing and interlinking is a weakness for those who wish to have a clean hierarchy and well-defined document layout.

Before our company started using Confluence, our team ran a Dokuwiki server. FOSS, can hook into AD, many plugins and extensions available. Worth looking at... yes, it does have Markdown based editing, though it has a rich editor to assist.

EDIT: Apparently they have a WYSIWYG plugin. Haven't tested it.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by wordsmattr338 »

new299 wrote: post #174
SomeHacker44 wrote: post #141

As the head of a company that uses HipChat... Thank you Atlassian. We have intended to migrate to the (free and better) Mattermost for a long time and just have been waiting for it to hit the top of our priority list. Knowing you are abandoning the terrible HipChat for an entirely new product, with no migration path and 50% more cost, makes this an easier choice. You have been abandoning us on JIRA and Confluence as…

What are good options for replacing Confluence? I looked at available open source wiki's maybe 1 or 2 years ago and there seems to be nothing that was as easy to use for non-technical people (which would include having WYSIWYG style editing). Are there any good options now?

A dialed in README.md in every repo is all I want.

It can link me all over Wikipedia style as needed, but I want the manual to come with my $ git clone and not have to fart around in some other document repo.

Re: Atlassian launches Stride, its Slack competitor

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Post by noxToken »

program_whiz wrote: post #127
noxToken wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sometimes tech isn't about innovation, discovery and breakthrough. Sometimes it's about integrating existing technology into the workflow of your customer base. Plenty of businesses big and small use the Atlassian product suite. This is a way for those businesses to have a chat client that is native to their suite. Tech isn't always sexy. Sometimes tech is just good business sense.

Don't agree. I will accept the term "business technology" insofar as Atlassian is rewriting existing concepts for business. But that's like saying buying a house and renting it for profit is "good business technology" -- its just an existing method being used for something else, I guess a house is a type of technology. In my mind, when someone says they are a "technology company", what that means is that they want to…

That's literally what I said:

>> Sometimes tech isn't about innovation, discovery and breakthrough. Sometimes it's about integrating existing technology into the workflow of your customer base.

Technology companies don't just create new things. Business is not 100% innovation. Not even the giants like MSFT, Google, FB, Amazon, and Apple spend all of their employee power on creating something new. Sometimes it's giving your customer base what they want.

I don't think anyone is billing Slide as the next frontier in chat software. Atlassian is porting over existing functionality to work natively with their other products. With the wide adoption of Slack, it's obvious that chat software is something Atlassian's customers are probably using, so why not make that hooks into the other products?

It doesn't matter if you're a tech company, a real estate company, a law firm, or a medical practice - if your customers want something that integrates well with what you're offering, it makes good business sense to see if it can work.

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Post by daxorid »

scrollaway wrote: post #185
kuschku wrote: post #102

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IRCCloud, Quassel. All of that exists, and can be used.

No, stop. Please. I was a huge proponent of IRC but the lack of developments the past... decades has killed it for me. Discord is straight up better. Yes it's proprietary, but no, IRC is just not a good alternative at this point, it hasn't kept up. And I love to death what the IRCCloud guys are doing but it's just not good enough to use as a proper communication tool especially in a company. Admitting this is the fir…

None of the features you mention are useful for actually communicating and getting work done.

Your concept of "better" is distinctly different from mine. In my world, software without completely useless and unnecessary features is better than bloatware. irssi + tmux + logging + grep works great for 100% of actual not-embedding-useless-cat-videos-to-avoid-having-to-actually-get-work-done use cases.

In the interest of adopting your own borderline-uncivil tone: Stop assuming objectivity in your notion of evolution and improvement being the same as everyone else. It's not. Just stop. Please.

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