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Re: Android Oreo

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Post by nfriedly »

fosco wrote: post #183

I have an HTC One M8 which I purchased in summer/fall of 2015. The phone works great but it makes me sad that I am still on Marshmellow and the phone is no longer supported. lately I have been been wishing there is a way I can just run some version of linux like debian/fedora on my phone and be able to run apt-get update and upgrade (or yum) as updates are released. IIRC it cost $600, and technically it does more tha…

I also have a One M8; mine is currently rooted and running CyanogenMod. (I keep meaning to update to LineageOS but haven't gotten around to it yet.)

Rooting is nice, and I believe it's important from a philosophical standpoint, but I probably won't with my next phone because the features I want are getting built into the OS, and I am missing several apps that just refuse to work when they detect they're running on a rooted phone. (Everything from games to my work email.)

It definitely increases the longevity of phon but, while it mostly works, it has lots of little quirks - especially with the various radios. E.g. I occasionally have to re-pair bluetooth devices, wi-fi will disconnect and then re-connect for no apparent reason, etc. Also, sometimes I just find it getting warm in my pocket and I have to reboot it to make it snap out of whatever endless loop it's stuck in. (I assume that updating to LineageOS will fix a few bugs and introduce a few others.)

I'm going to replace it with either the next Pixel or the next iPhone when they both get released in a month or two, depending on which one I'm more impressed with. I am going to miss my headphones jack...

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Post by i_cant_speel »

digi_owl wrote: post #181
yread wrote: post #104

Would be nice if they added a switch to disable connecting to open wifi networks. Or at least to realize that the wifi is connected but its waiting for a sign in so internet traffic should still be routed through 4g.

Used to be that Android distinguished between connected wifi and a internet connection by trying to reach a Google server or something. At least my 4.x tablet used to have a 3-state wifi icon, off (not present), connected (gray), internet (blue).

I would love to have something like this. When I call an Uber/Lyft as I am walking out of my apartment, it always takes forever for the WiFi to disconnect, long after it has lost internet connection. So I constantly get the "Unable to Connect to Network" error, and I have to turn off WiFi and restart the app to actually call a ride.

If anyone knows of a solution to this problem on a Galaxy S8 I would love to hear it.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by [deleted] »

digi_owl wrote: post #181
yread wrote: post #104

Would be nice if they added a switch to disable connecting to open wifi networks. Or at least to realize that the wifi is connected but its waiting for a sign in so internet traffic should still be routed through 4g.

Used to be that Android distinguished between connected wifi and a internet connection by trying to reach a Google server or something. At least my 4.x tablet used to have a 3-state wifi icon, off (not present), connected (gray), internet (blue).

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Post by brd »

koolba wrote: post #204

Does Google pay these candy companies to use the name or do they pay Google? There's obviously some contractual relationship but I can't figure out who's on which end of it.

This was the story behind Kit Kat, I'd assume it will be something similar https://www.theverge.com/2013/9/3/4691040/android-kitkat-the...

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Post by freehunter »

TazeTSchnitzel wrote: post #208
koolba wrote: post #204

Does Google pay these candy companies to use the name or do they pay Google? There's obviously some contractual relationship but I can't figure out who's on which end of it.

Would they need to pay them? Cookies and mobile phones are completely different lines of business, right? Though the name is a direct reference to the sweet, so that maybe makes it more complicated.

Well and they have a picture of the cookie itself on their landing page.

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Post by rsp1984 »

koolba wrote: post #204

Does Google pay these candy companies to use the name or do they pay Google? There's obviously some contractual relationship but I can't figure out who's on which end of it.

Google is the largest ad company in the world. Selling ad space is what they do. What is Android naming if not one giant ad space?

Long story short I'd be extremely surprised if Google didn't sell this.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by wodenokoto »

koolba wrote: post #204

Does Google pay these candy companies to use the name or do they pay Google? There's obviously some contractual relationship but I can't figure out who's on which end of it.

I believe the kitkat one was a joint promotion, so kitkat did som android promotion and Google did some kitkat promotion and called it equal.

Wikipedia says the same.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Android_KitKat (see history section. Sorry can't figure out how to do the deep link on mobile)

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by bitmapbrother »

dcomp wrote: post #122
pjmlp wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As I commented in another HN story, I don't believe OEMs and telecom operators will release updates, if Google doesn't force them to do so. They already admitted on the ADB Podcast that they don't want to remove the ability for OEMs and mobile operators to customize their forks of Android. We will still be forced to buy new devices even if they are VTS certified.

> VTS certified If it passed VTS it should be able to run AOSP. The new CTS will be an AOSP System image running their VTS passing "drivers". Even if your vendor doesn't push any updates. At least you should be able to run a number of newer versions of AOSP as long as Android doesn't deprecate those VTS drivers.

Providing your bootloader can be unlocked, of course.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by cestith »

koolba wrote: post #204

Does Google pay these candy companies to use the name or do they pay Google? There's obviously some contractual relationship but I can't figure out who's on which end of it.

They could've probably called it "Hydrox" for free.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by madeofpalk »

klondike_ wrote: post #11

Project Treble is the most important thing in this release >The biggest change to the foundations of Android to date: a modular architecture that makes it easier and faster for hardware makers to deliver Android updates. With any luck, this will end the huge security/update problem Android has. Right now an update is dependent on the chip manufacturer's drivers, then the OEM adding them to the ROM with their custom "…

I remember many years ago when a few carrier and chipset execs stood up on Google I/O stage and announced a new program to ensure Android devices get updated quicker. Nothing came out of that.

The proof here will be when they ship.

Thankfully, 'Google Play Services' and distributing more and more services through the Play Store is a step in the right direction.

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