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Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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Even if apps which don't include analytics package release via Google play store would be subject to collection of device identification metrics. Which could be prevented using module such as Xprivacy as shown here - https://imgur.com/a/AuARo

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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post #180

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Focus and Klar do not use the Google Play Store Analytics. Mozilla has their own Telemetry service. This documentation is a good start: https://github.com/mozilla-mobile/focus-android/wiki/Telemet... You have to understand how extremely strict Mozilla is with using third-party services for things like crash reporting and telemetry. It is extremely difficult to find services that meet our very high standard for privac…

Yet this thread is about how the firefox APKs contain google analytics code....

My guess is that it is a dependency of the Adjust SDK that Focus uses. See https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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How bad is that?

Depends on your views about privacy, tracking, google and mozilla. Also your degree of tolerance. To me privacy is of vital importance, tracking is to be avoided at all cost, so this is as bad as it can be. But I'm now used to mozilla engaging in tracking, giving away my privacy to google for money and firefox developers punishing users and distros who disabled their included spying tool.

We found Stallman, here he is

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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post #212

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Yet this thread is about how the firefox APKs contain google analytics code....

My guess is that it is a dependency of the Adjust SDK that Focus uses. See https://github.com/adjust/android_sdk/blob/master/README.md

Wait... Focus doesn't use Google Analytics because they don't meet your very high standards for privacy. But it does use Adjust, which means Adjust does meet your very high standards, even though it uses Google Analytics?

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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According to F-Droid [1], it contains `com.google.android.gms:play-services-analytics`. [1]: https://gitlab.com/fdroid/rfp/issues/171#note_30410376

I think I'm only surprised to see this comment and not that Firefox bundled analytics into their app. What's controversial about anonymized usage statistics in 2017?

Man people have really lowered their standards with privacy these days.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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post #177

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Yes it collects anonymous analytics by default but you can disable it in the settings. It's not a conspiracy. https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/send-anonymous-usage-da...

You can't advertise as a "private browser" an get away with that PR bullshit. "Anonymous" usage data is anything but when the server receiving it can easily tell who it's coming from. Mozilla is not the user, it breaks the entire idea of privacy.

As people below have already added their comments, I just want to give my two cents. This is not PR bullshit, but the Focus team can consider asking users on first run.

This private browser, having been using it since beta on iOS, is nothing more than just a private browsing window like the one offered in Desktop version (I am not here to debate the technical implementation since I do not know).

Telemetry does not break privacy. Privacy is a contract between the user and the product creator. In this case, Mozilla offers opt-out and does its best effort to document. User has the right to opt out or even choose not to use the software.

To me, this is a positive user feedback, but not some PR bullshit (frustration I get it). When someone says your session is private under TLS, well, your IP and user-agent are almost guaranteed captured in server logs, but you can choose to believe/not believe the service provider promises in the respective ToS.

Re: Firefox Focus – A new private browser for iOS and Android

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post #189

I installed Firefox Focus for iOS simply for its content blocker. I still prefer using mobile safari, but augmented with three content blockers: - Firefox Focus, which blocks all sorts of stuff - 1Blocker, which blocks all sorts of stuff - Unobstruct, which blocks Medium's "dickbar" popups.

Does this work in embedded browser? More often than not I don't open links within Twitter/Reddit mobile app bc I can't stand some intrusive ads.

FYI the most recent version of the Reddit app for iOS (3.5) has an option to open all links in an external browser. Apparently the safari view controller is in the works as well.
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