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Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Re: Disney acquires own streaming facilities, will pull Netflix content

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Post by myrryr »

faragon wrote: post #21
dbmikus wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Netflix is so cheap compared to cable, though. I wouldn't mind paying for a few streaming bundles as long as the coverage is wide enough. I don't know if the industry will move towards consolidation like we've seen in music streaming services, but if prices stay similar to cable but I can watch whatever I want whenever I want, I'd consider that a win. EDIT: my point doesn't refute that piracy will continue, just that…

Amazon Prime Video is even cheaper. If Amazon manages to increase content while leveraging costs because of their scale and vertical integration, it could be huge.

Unlikely. They have it in the US and the UK and in bugger all other locations.

If you want to stop piracy, you need it on one service at a reasonable price, and that service needs to be global.

no one has that yet.

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Post by calesce »

spinlock wrote: post #194
nxsynonym wrote: post #69

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Agreed. I only pay for netflix and HBO (and amazon, but that's a bonus for paying for prime). HBO doesn't feel like "extra" because it's always been an optional add-on that costs more. First all the "major" studios will split and start charing $10/month. Then adds will start creeping back in. Before you know it everyone will be paying for an ad-hoc cable subscription. I think a better option would be to do what Amazo…

I have an Apple TV and I have to switch from it to the TV to get Amazon because Apple and Amazon won't play nice together.

You soon won't have to do that any longer: https://www.theverge.com/2017/6/5/15732608/amazon-prime-vide...

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Post by flashman »

joezydeco wrote: post #107
RcouF1uZ4gsC wrote: post #93

People forget that Disney owns a lot of must-see content: For example, here is the list of top grossing movies of 2016 http://www.imdb.com/list/ls074920894/ Disney had the following films 1. Captain America: Civil War 2. Rogue One 3. Finding Dory 4. Zootopia 5. The Jungle Book 11. Doctor Strange 12. Moana 19. Alice Through the Looking Glass For 2017 so far ( http://www.the-numbers.com/box-office-records/domestic/all-…

Those are all movies. Streaming services get traction from episodic series and live shows. If Disney streams only feature film content, it will go nowhere. No parent will pay $10-$20 month to access the same 50 to 100 films over and over.

> No parent will pay $10-$20 month

That's literally what my family used to pay in VHS rentals. One new release and one weekly movie, three or four times a month.

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Post by overcast »

flashman wrote: post #206
overcast wrote: post #192

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justwatch doesn't do anything but aggregate affiliate links.

That's like saying Google "just" aggregates indexed websites. I use justwatch on a weekly basis to find out whether a movie is on any of the services I use (instead of checking all three of them individually), and browse new releases on each service.

Sure. But OP was responding to the below excerpt. At least from the way I've interpreted the request, they are looking for a single interface to watch their content from multiple providers. justwatch does not do this.

px1999 1 hour ago [-]

Long term, we'll probably wind up with a couple of major marketplaces that provide a UI that ties together content bundles that you've purchased from different distributors (who will actually serve up their catalogs).

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Post by randomString1 »

Cancelled cable years ago. Just cancelled Netflix today, won't be paying any service anymore and I will reassess the situation in 3 years. If you want me to tolerate your DRM (and many other problems like region blocks) the whole industry needs to rethink their approach. U+1F44F

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Post by nkkollaw »

geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

If I had a dollar for every time I tried to stream a movie legally and couldn't find it anywhere but on torrent sites...

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Post by nkkollaw »

fooey wrote: post #156
geff82 wrote: post #112

Maybe when I am 60, 70 or 80 the film industry will get their shi* together and finally agree on a solution that has long been found in the music business. For a truly complete platform, I would FOR SURE pay more than the 10$ a month for Netflix. 20, maybe 30! But then I want it ALL. All films they have in storage. I mean, it is 2017 and there are a lot of films I can't find on Netflix, Amazon Prime or, when I am in…

I've completely given up on trying to stream movies I also completely refuse to buy physical media too, so the end result is that I basically never watch movies at home any more unless I go to the effort of torrenting it

Try Chromecast. It costs almost nothing and it's absolutely awesome.

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Post by nitwit005 »

bearcobra wrote: post #204
marssaxman wrote: post #122

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How is this "a la carte"? I don't care about channels; I'd be willing to pay a couple bucks to watch some specific movie or TV show, but "you have to sign up for a monthly subscription to some corporation's arbitrary bundle of media offerings in order to get access to the one or two things you actually want to see" is pretty much the opposite of "a la carte TV".

If that's what your looking for, it seems like you can get it from dozens of places like iTunes, Google Play, Amazon Video, etc.

The problem tends to be the pricing. The per-episode and seasonal purchase rates often seem higher than going and buying a DVD, probably due to the store taking a cut. The streaming services, or even cable TV, are much cheaper if you make a lot of use of them.

The hope always seems to be to operate like a gym, where there are people paying but almost never showing up.

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Post by ChuckMcM »

Anatidae wrote: post #30

If every studio thinks I'm going to pay them $10+ a month to stream their content, they are going to be very mistaken. I can't imagine that a lot of people want to spend the collective hundreds of dollars to sign up for all the streaming services. It's almost asking to drive people to torrents. Now, if Disney does something like $30/year or something really affordable - sure. I might do that on a whim. I guess it's a…

I feel similarly. The success of HBO Now has been a challenge because it holds out the hope that if you are "good enough" you too can get $10 - $15 a month per subscriber. This is easily 10x the revenue share from a cable bundle deal according to NAB publications.

But does anyone think I'll pay $10 per month per 'network' for entertainment? It would rapidly cost more than cable or satellite.

What I find curious is how difficult it appears to be to sell advertising on streaming channels. If you've streamed one of the 'minor' brands like SyFy or Discovery you can see a 2 minute commercial break with three identical 30 second commercials back to back.

It is hard to imagine that the people who put these things together are so clueless in terms of how their product is perceived.

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Post by cickpass_broken »

notatoad wrote: post #134
aidenn0 wrote: post #123

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If all major studios pull their content from Netflix, then it will not have the large library size anymore. Also Disney is currently in a strong position for this right now. They released ~10 movies in 2016 and had the 4 highest grossing films of 2016. This, of course, assumes that Marvel and Lucasfilm properties are put on the Disney streaming service (I would expect that Touchstone label will not be included in thi…

Netflix already doesn't have that big of a library, and it's been steadily shrinking. But if it comes down to it, i'm willing to pay for $10/mo to netflix purely for their original content. I'd also pay for HBO Now if they would let me (I'm in canada). I don't think there's any other company putting out enough quality first-party content that i'd be willing to pay a monthly fee for their service. maybe a couple bucks…

http://www.cravetv.ca/ has a bunch of HBO.
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