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Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by sathackr »

vetinari wrote: post #203
sathackr wrote: post #76

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I don't mind the questions at all. I hope you didn't want the TL;DR version. Some of my pain points. Many probably have solutions, but I'm stuck between spending time dealing with it the way it is, and spending time finding a solution. These are not in any particular order: 1. Serial communication(terminal, for interfacing with console ports). I tried a few programs that didn't really work right away, and settled on…

I won't address everything, just a few tips: 1) sounds definitely like a permission problem. Is your user member of the dialout group? If not, add it there, re-login and try again. You should not be forced to use the root user. 2) Exchange is a problem. There are several solutions, none of them is all that great: a) use Evolution, b) use Thunderbird with the proprietary plugin, c) use a proxy like davmail (davmail.sf…

> 1) sounds definitely like a permission problem. Is your user member of the dialout group?

Probably not. Will check -- I haven't changed any group memberships, so if it isn't by default, then it isn't.

> 2) Exchange is a problem...b) use Thunderbird with the proprietary plugin

Thunderbird with Exquilla is what I tried, but it just didn't quite do it for me -- the friction to use was greater than adapting to OWA.

> 3) There is Earth Pro for Linux too, it just isn't advertised.

Really?! I have to figure this out then! 3D buildings and drawing 3D paths to check LOS is my primary usage, so a GPS trace bug won't bother me too much.

> 5) Most distribution have a utility to make a boot drive.

I found the Ubuntu utility to make an Ubuntu bootable disk, but it wouldn't work on anything but an Ubuntu ISO.

> 6) Do not fight the NetworkManager with ifconfig. If you want to use NetworkManager (and you want, if you use wifi, wwan, etc), change the IPs with nmcli.

Thanks for the tip -- I'll learn nmcli and give it a shot, sounds like exactly what I need.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by tracker1 »

davidgerard wrote: post #185
madshiva wrote: post #157

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I didn't event understand why people use Excel. There's no ERP software in this company? Excel teach bad habit about having list every where not maintained.

Because it's the best spreadsheet software out there. It really is first-class, and LO Calc has a lot of catching up to do (and they are quite aware of this). My theory is that Excel's userbase includes the guys who actually sign the cheques , so MS has to get it right.

Yeah... LO may have 80% of the features, but if 25% of users use a few of those other 20% of features, you're going to face a lot of resistance from any company with even a dozen users. I've seen some amazing/scary things done in Excel (and Access even).

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by sathackr »

xaldir wrote: post #191
sathackr wrote: post #76

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I don't mind the questions at all. I hope you didn't want the TL;DR version. Some of my pain points. Many probably have solutions, but I'm stuck between spending time dealing with it the way it is, and spending time finding a solution. These are not in any particular order: 1. Serial communication(terminal, for interfacing with console ports). I tried a few programs that didn't really work right away, and settled on…

1. I use minicom, but you may not like it. 2. Good point. What did you used? Exquilla, DavMail? 5. Use etcher! 9. k3b is the answer Finally I think that Fedora/kde or Mint/cinnamon have an overall better user experience than Ubuntu.

> 1. I use minicom, but you may not like it.

Yep. I tried minicom and did not like it :-)

> 2. Good point. What did you used? Exquilla, DavMail?

Exquilla, didn't care for it either. The friction to switch/learn that + Thunderbird was greater than adapting to OWA

I've seen KDE suggested a few times now. I will have to check it out.

Thanks for the tips!

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by kristofferR »

skrebbel wrote: post #148
int_19h wrote: post #118

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You're making the same exact argument that people trying to push Linux on the desktop were making 10 years ago, and 15 years (and probably before that, it's just that's when I started dabbling in that stuff). It boils down to "it works for me, and if it doesn't work for you because of X, Y and Z, then you should just stop doing that". You can judge for yourself just how persuasive this argument really is by looking a…

The argument is the same, but Linux desktops did get a lot better, and with better support, since then. There's now multiple distros with great UX to choose from (as opposed to "learn xfree86 and stop whining") and indeed Wine works great with lots of programs. I say this as an avid Windows 10 user. IMHO there's still a usability gap (which is why I'm on Windows), but it's narrowing. GP's argument has a lot more meri…

Desktop Linux suffers from the same chicken-and-egg problem that doomed Windows Phone.

Developers don't develop for it since the user base isn't large enough, and people don't switch to it because app support is severely lacking. How good the raw OS is doesn't matter that much when the apps aren't up to par.

Your Wine comment illustrates my point - while Wine is an awesome project - even apps running perfectly through it feel like they're running on Windows 2000. That's fine if you just care about the functionality of the app, but not if you care about the user experience.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by mysterydip »

userbinator wrote: post #80
terminado wrote: post #57

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LTSB (aka: long-term servicing branch) I'm not sure if it's comedic or tragic that the version so very many users would want most, is not only the version with the worst name, but also the version Microsoft discourages people from adopting. Critical patch support, infrequent updates, and excludes crufty bloatware. What's not to like?

but also the version Microsoft discourages people from adopting. Not surprising, because MS wants to push all the features (and ads, telemetry, etc.) to users regardless of whether they actually want them. Indeed I wish MS would just keep supporting XP as the "Windows LTSB" with nothing but critical security patches, and keep doing it until the OS becomes nearly invulnerable to remote attacks.

I think this is what the ReactOS project will eventually become (which to me would be a great thing). They just released v0.45, if you haven't seen it yet.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by hesarenu »

eropple wrote: post #73
Sir_Cmpwn wrote: post #68

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>This is where you start going off the rails. People did buy hardware that was compatible with the operating system they do use. It is super presumptuous and weird to try this sleight-of-hand in your argument. Make new purchases more intelligently. >You are now off the rails and airborne. Excel is still largely unsupported and breaks nontrivial spreadsheets. The UI is also, IMO, a huge step backwards from Office and…

I've been using Linux as a daily driver for fifteen years. I have shot my share of trouble and the next two guys' too. It's not a good experience . It's bad . Even when things aren't breaking left, right, and sideways (which, to be clear, definitely happens less often today than five years ago, with the corollary that that breakage is usually something a mere mortal can't do too much about), it feels kinda...well, sh…

I have been using Linux and Mac for last 10 years. It nots bad as you note. Actually i had more issues with Mac these days due to updates slowing down the machine and their half transparent UI. As a developer i would far use linux them mac.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by pionar »

DonkeyChan wrote: post #18
oridecon wrote: post #11

Since the first release of W10 several registry keys and policies have changed in very confusing ways. I can't remember what exactly but I had to change my personal scripts several times based on the changelog of other tools. Privacy and settings like default apps were also reverted (reset to default) when you updated. They installed some apps like Candy Crush Saga on Enterprise. I don't see that much of a problem he…

I can't agree with this more. A client straight up failed a PCI compliance audit, replete with daily fines, for using 10 Enterprise. They decided to pursue legal measures against MS for false claims. I really hope this gets elevated because reverting to win 7 is a solution with a short life span. The other solution is to rebuild infrastructure on top of a different platform but that's prohibitively expensive.

Wait, why was your client running a desktop OS in-scope?

Every PCI zone I've seen is just servers (Windows Server and Linux). Does the client store card data on desktop machines?

Generally, you'll have a locked-down portion of your infrastructure be PCI-compliant, and that's the only place card data is stored or entered. That reduces your scope and costs.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by soundslikebull »

m8urn wrote: post #114
kevingadd wrote: post #110

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It's a huge bummer that the (wildly implausible) results he got didn't discourage him from spreading them widely. He later said they were 'unexpected' and he was working on verifying them from scratch reproducibly, but that comes only after misinformation about telemetry is spreading around the web. :(

I actually didn't spread them widely, I tweeted them. If you follow me you would know I tweet things like that all the time. I observed these connections and showed the settings I have set that should have prevented them. I haven't published results anywhere and many people, including in the comments here, have corroborated what I saw. The results are the results. I am re-verifying before I publish anything on this a…

Tweeting your results is publishing them.

But the major result shown was your incompetence in setting GPOs.

You should be retracting your 'findings' until you learn how to use Windows properly, not doubling down on your claims. What an embarrassment.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by skrowl »

slowmotiony wrote: post #197
hvidgaard wrote: post #143

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In all fairness, writing in C# and targeting SQL Server is not locking you into Windows unless you use WPF or other Windows specific parts of the framework.

Not sure why you're getting downvoted. We use .net core together with SQL Server on Linux boxes in production, no issues whatsoever and we can finally use a programming language which is actually pleasurable to code in.

You know exactly why he's getting downvoted. Saying positive things about Microsoft is very unpopular here on HN.

Re: Windows 10 Enterprise ignores various privacy settings

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Post by Piskvorrr »

hvidgaard wrote: post #196
Piskvorrr wrote: post #184

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Interesting, but for your doubt I have the opposite experience. "Windows update came and took away the working drivers again " is a recurring theme, as are Windows networking issues (on many, many different networks). If I want a system that just works, I have one bootable and installable on a USB drive; for endless tinkering (and fighting against "where do we drag you today?"), there's Windows. Where did that "monit…

Are you running special hardware? Ever since Vista I have at most had to install a graphics driver, and that is it. Windows networking failures seems to be driver issues when I debug them, just as they are on Linux, but I haven't had any myself on either system. To me, and without exception, every single person I talk with about this, have less issues with Windows or OSX, than Linux. This is primarily CS majors that…

That seems that they're forced into the OS, rather than choosing it. I do have a tendency to gripe about zugzwang, too.
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