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Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Why would I go to a sub that points to obvious shills and product placements? I'm only giving more views to their images. Maybe hailcorporate was made by the same people. (X-Files theme song)

It's not so much that you'd want to hang there, as to observe that the problem is noted ("hail corporate" is a deeply ironic name), and fairly well documented. In other news, Reddit have announced some changes to their spam management today.

For those breathlessly wondering what the spam announcement was:

https://www.reddit.com/r/modnews/comments/6bj5de/state_of_sp...

/r/spam will be going away. Better automated tools. Moderators (usually) rawk.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Login wall really hits my "cba" buttons, sorry. If it re-appears on my radar with some more info behind it I'll give it a thought again. To expand on that a little - if I forget and link an interesting comment thread to a friend and they have to register to view it I look like a dork. It's not happening.

CBA == can't be arsed?

If so, completely agreed. That was one of Tzu's massive fails, though they supplied same in quantity.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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post #166

Login wall really hits my "cba" buttons, sorry. If it re-appears on my radar with some more info behind it I'll give it a thought again. To expand on that a little - if I forget and link an interesting comment thread to a friend and they have to register to view it I look like a dork. It's not happening.

CBA == can't be arsed? If so, completely agreed. That was one of Tzu's massive fails, though they supplied same in quantity.

Yeah exactly. I imagine it's a forced register thing so that they can build a userbase but I don't want to sign up without knowing what's there

I am aware my complaining has taken longer than just signing up but I'm already registered and logged in here :P

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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> There is so much hate and anger on the front page and so little good content. Absurd hyperbole. I mean, all someone has to do is just look at the front-page to see that this is false. > it seems like they shadow ban everyone except for bots Also absurd hyperbole. You claim to have been banned because an admin or an algorithm incorrectly identified you as vote spamming, but I honestly don't believe it based on the r…

If I had a dollar for every time I saw something either overtly racist or inappropriate, or just plain braindead on the new front page that wouldn’t have shown up before I’d have several. It went from the “front page of (what’s popular on) the internet” to “front page of Reddit”. The only problem is below the surface Reddit has a lot of racist and inappropriate content. That’s why I rarely go anywhere but a few isola…

After you made this comment, a whole discussion[0] ensued regarding this topic. Looking at the front page of Reddit is like refusing to use kill files on usenet or /ignore on IRC "because I want to see what 'they' are saying."

The short of it, like many similar platforms from the past, is that Reddit is highly customizable if the user chooses that route (not to mention Reddit Enhancement Suite).

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14351010

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Being shadow banned has no impact on what content you see so if you just want a better front page experience, try creating an account and joining smaller subreddits that are more aligned to your interests. I don't think I have a single default sub on my front page anymore.

Right and then try to participate in the conversation, and you can't, but since its a shadow ban you don't even know that you can't participate. In general your giving traffic and ad dollars to people who seem more interested in pressing a narrative then providing content.

You seem to be insinuating about a conspiracy among Reddit the company, admins (low-level employees), and [mostly] independent subreddit moderators. I think your premise is flawed.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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Voat has a couple of issues. First, it took in a lot of people from banned subreddits (/r/coontown, fatpeoplehate, etc.) Unlike the great Digg 4.0 to Reddit migration, they didn't a huge chunk of Reddit. They just got the most controversial. Second, It tried to be a full Reddit clone with tons of subverses. Reddit started out with just a few categories and slowly expanded out to user generated subreddits. That has to…

The problem is a "Reddit alternative" will naturally attract the groups that no longer feel at home on Reddit. It seems inevitable that any alternative will be more toxic and/or hyper-moderated.

Voat is actually far less moderated, though, and honestly, almost nothing is censored there.

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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>> I'd really like to know why devs think they can rival Reddit, it's just too big. The same people said that about Digg before Reddit took all their users.

People switched from Digg to Reddit for mainly two reasons. 1. Digg started sucking 2. Reddit offered a truly innovative feature that most people found useful, subreddits Reddit is still great, and this doesn't offer any significant features that I'd consider important enough for most people to switch.

this doesn't, but that doesn't mean other's wont dominate reddit in the future...

Re: Voten.co, a Real-Time Reddit Alternative Launches Public Beta

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All of 4chan is one community. All of Twitch is one community. All of reddit is one community. Youtube sucks because it has videos that pander to kids. Twitter sucks because it because it's because talking about their mundane life. Facebook sucks because it's people sharing fake news. In social media, whenever you're having a bad time, it's most like your fault. When you say X sucks, You're really saying that your fr…

That's like saying a nation is one community. It's not. It (usually) shares a language and some common values, but otherwise there's greater diversity within a nation than between nations. Still, there's a lot of truth in "When you say X sucks, You're really saying that your friends / the people you're following / the communities you visit suck". It literally takes seconds to join or leave an on-line community. On th…

FYI That's OPs point. They are saying all those social media sites are the same to prove the point that they aren't. As evidenced by their next paragraph.
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