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Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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381 points, 171 comments, 1 hour ago; as of writing. Why is this on the second page of HN, and not pole position? I assume/hope that there is some mechanism that stops new content from dominating other content too rapidly.

there's a mechanism to damper but not totally remove some kinds of posts, possibly involving manually mod intervention

http://www.righto.com/2013/11/how-hacker-news-ranking-really...

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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The man at the FBI leading the investigation into the Trump / Russia connection was fired upon recommendation from Sessions who said he was recusing himself from all Russia / Trump investigations. Looking corrupt as hell? Most certainly.

At this point Trump is looking more and more like Nixon on fast-forward.

FWIW, it has been 43 years since

> The United States House Committee on the Judiciary opens formal and public impeachment hearings against President Richard Nixon.

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=May_9&oldid=77960...

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #86

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>As civil service, he can only be fired for cause. I'm not clear on what "for cause" means for an acting director of the FBI. Wasn't the justification for firing Comey that he mishandled the Clinton email investigation? It looks blown out of proportion to me, but that might count as cause.

Comey was a political appointment rather than the guy who will temporarily replace him as Acting Director (who has civil service protection) and can't be dismissed as Acting Director, only replaced by appointing a new Director of the FBI.

Dunno. What is certain is that Trump can't appoint a new Director without Senate confirmation. And I'm not even certain about that. He may be able to appoint an acting Director for an indeterminate amount of time. In particular,

  There are no statutory conditions on the President’s
  authority to remove the FBI Director.
https://fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/R41850.pdf

From the same cite, a President can nominate an acting Director. On the day after the death of long-time Director J. Edgar Hoover, L. Patrick Gray was appointed acting Director.

The Constitution was set up with checks and balances. But it requires the branches of government to do their duty. When you have a corrupt President of the same party that controls Congress, that may be asking too much.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #136

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Perhaps the country is better served by someone disliked by both sides than by someone handpicked for their loyalty to Trump.

I have to agree with this, and I want to believe that was the needle Comey was threading. I am concerned, however, that his tone in the last hearing (eg. "mildly nauseous", Abedin email forwarding mistakes, immigrant investigation mistakes, etc.) was so flippant that he was almost asking to be fired. By design or by accident, he's departing more independent now than ever.

I'm glad I wasn't the only one who thought his tone was inappropriate. Leave that for the tabloids to sell, don't bring it into the political institution.

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The man at the FBI leading the investigation into the Trump / Russia connection was fired upon recommendation from Sessions who said he was recusing himself from all Russia / Trump investigations. Looking corrupt as hell? Most certainly.

To be clear, Sessions said he concurred in the recommendation of his deputy Rothstein, who is a life-long prosecutor. Plus, virtually every former Attorney General agreed that Comey made a terrible mistake in announcing the results of the Clinton investigation.

Firing him around January would have had some creedence, not now months later after praising him for months and Trump finding out that Comey has been investigating him and his campaign for almost a year now.

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How childish is it that they had to put in the termination letter something about "thanks for telling me three separate times there's no investigation ON ME"? It's almost like this administration is run by 8 year olds.

I think they included that because it was the only way they could get CNN/NYT to publish that fact.

everyone: the above account was created 30 minutes ago and every comment so far is pro-Trump spin

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The man at the FBI leading the investigation into the Trump / Russia connection was fired upon recommendation from Sessions who said he was recusing himself from all Russia / Trump investigations. Looking corrupt as hell? Most certainly.

At this point Trump is looking more and more like Nixon on fast-forward.

Minus the intelligence and a number of other factors. I seem to be the only leftie in America that rather admires Nixon despite his numerous flaws and considers him a bit of a tragic figure. In an earlier and scrappier era he'd have been considered a great statesman.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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A friendly reminder to both sides that whatever the current administration does, the next can undo. This is especially important when the majority party decides to give itself more power and inadvertently gives their successors more than they intended.

The republicans have Gerrymandered themselves into every seat in almost every non-coastal state. We're about to find out in the coming years how much republicans own this country.

Or perhaps the country was not as progressive as we all thought and this is our wake up call.

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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post #16

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Yeah, that was one of my first thoughts about this. I have no love lost for Comey but there's a huge conflict of interest here with Trump and I think the reasons for Trump firing Comey are not the reasons I would want him fired. Comey was doing a balancing act, playing one constituency against another. It seems like Trump is purging everyone who might provide any level of oversight whatsoever.

"Conflict of interest" is practically the man's middle name. Not only does he not avoid them, he seems to actively seek them out.

You probably shouldn't drink anything while reading this.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/10/eric-trump-nepoti...

Re: President Trump Dismisses FBI Director Comey

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The man at the FBI leading the investigation into the Trump / Russia connection was fired upon recommendation from Sessions who said he was recusing himself from all Russia / Trump investigations. Looking corrupt as hell? Most certainly.

At this point Trump is looking more and more like Nixon on fast-forward.

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