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Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by oneeyedpigeon »

protomyth wrote: post #171

Apple has “great” new iMacs in the pipeline, slated for release “this year”, including configurations specifically targeted at large segments of the pro market. This just fills me with dread. It just seems like Apple continually doesn't get it and the "iMac is a pro computer" is the canary in the coal mine. We already switched to Adobe for all video editing after the Final Cut Pro fiasco, and if this crud keeps up I…

> large segments of the pro market

Lots of different types of 'pro' user; there was mention in the post of xcode developers being either the largest market, or the largest growing one. As a developer who currently uses a 2014 MBP (mainly docked), I am very, very likely to be in the market for either a new iMac later this year, or a Mac Pro next year. I'm glad Apple is, finally, looking to address this issue.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by csomar »

adtac wrote: post #193
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

>32/64GB RAM I'm genuinely curious - why do you need 64 GB of RAM on a laptop? Are there industries where this is a necessity? At that point, wouldn't you be better off having remote machines?

Remote machines can't match the local machine in terms of latency. Especially when I'm "remote" from America somewhere in the middle of nowhere where the best connection I can get is a 3G.

But back to your 32/64Gb question. I need it to run my Docker containers. I do trading and stuff.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by forgottenacc57 »

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #68
cooper12 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think Gruber addresses this pretty well: they already took the silent approach, but it was becoming unsustainable with their pro market, whose needs were not being met. If they just did a small hardware bump, they'd be projecting that they'd given up on the pro and they'd lose a lot of loyalty and goodwill. People can only wait so long so this info helps to keep them interested and bring the term "Apple" back into…

Missing the point though. It's not just the hardware, it's the trust. A lot of pros will be thinking "So why should I buy New MacPro if they're only going to let the line stagnate again?"

This is the key point... Apple will just let it stagnate again after this little flurry of activity.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by nik736 »

DoofusOfDeath wrote: post #170
ianwalter wrote: post #112

I wish there was more info on the Pro Display. I thought Apple was "out of the display game". I wonder if the UltraFine issues played a part in this.

Serious question: What room is there for improvement and innovation in displays for MacPro's target users, aside from price-reduction? I can see how photographers want faithful color reproduction with a wide gamut, good image consistency across the whole display, good resolution, and a decent size (maybe 32" tops?) But AFAIK, monitors with those qualities are already available. The only thing I can think of that woul…

Just put out a 27" 5K Display with a competitive price (say $1000 - $1200) and they would earn a lot of money with it instead of not even competing.

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Post by SippinLean »

inetknght wrote: post #206
SippinLean wrote: post #186

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X Specifically? People typically point to the telemetry and forced updates, but I've managed to disable both, using what were admittedly much-too-difficult procedures or third-party software. It's annoying, but not that annoying. I really like Finder and Spotlight, but not enough to be tied, via licensing, to any specific hardware. Less cluttering--I can uninstall apps…

> It's annoying, but not that annoying. For you, maybe. For me, I have zero intention of going through the hassle when I can just use Linux instead. Any hassles here are easily learned and generally don't _require_ the use of third party stuff doing black magic under the hood.

Fair enough, but Linux brings hassles of it's own, at least my Linux box does.

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Post by dom96 »

csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

> Thiner/Lighter

I can understand lighter, but thinner? Why do you wish for it to be thinner? I consider it to be thin enough.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by csomar »

redm wrote: post #190
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

I love Mac OS but it gets regular updates and which each update, it's more demanding. The hardware needs to keep up. Try running IOS 7 on a Gen 3 iPhone.

So update your hardware regularly?

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Post by cschep »

bathyspheric wrote: post #185
chefandy wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Especially since the whole virtual escape key thing– being a default layout vim user for 20+ years– I'd love to follow suit, but I need Adobe Creative Suite. The tools available on Linux aren't even ballpark. Getting OS X on a VM has always been fussy and frustrating, and if I wanted to work with Windows I'd just use a Windows laptop. On top of that, the apple magic trackpad is just great. Fussing with extracted boot…

My only vim customization is `:imap kj `. Takes 10s to write into a .vimrc on any new computer.

the ONLY one?! wow.

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Post by Kiro »

adtac wrote: post #193
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

>32/64GB RAM I'm genuinely curious - why do you need 64 GB of RAM on a laptop? Are there industries where this is a necessity? At that point, wouldn't you be better off having remote machines?

Not OP and I'm no professional but Photoshop alone is the reason I can never have enough RAM.

Re: The Mac Pro Lives

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Post by csomar »

dom96 wrote: post #216
csomar wrote: post #178

Am I the only one that sees OS X as the biggest reason to switch to Mac? I mean Windows is good, but nowhere good as OS X. And please, don't tell me Ubuntu or other linux flavors. They look good (and are good if you are programming on them) but the UX is still lacking a lot. (Never mind the confusion of the different flavors, packaging systems, and configurations). Also god forbid you have a problem (especially a har…

> Thiner/Lighter I can understand lighter, but thinner? Why do you wish for it to be thinner? I consider it to be thin enough.

Thiner makes it easier to manipulate when I'm in Cafes/Airplane/On the Couch.
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