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2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by _m8fo »

dukeluke wrote: post #208
southphillyman wrote: post #188

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You don't understand why lack of diversity in an industry is a problem? A complaint that I often hear is that SV is full of start ups focused on "Uber for catnip" and other unimaginative useless things. Wouldn't diversity address this alleged homogeny of services(think Bevel)?

I see no merit in forced diversity. If they have the opportunity and incentive to choose this field, yet go elsewhere, that's fine by me.

You've yet to prove that they've had "the opportunity and incentive to choose this field, yet go elsewhere."

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by ghaff »

akiselev wrote: post #209
WildUtah wrote: post #198

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Outside SF proper, the SV urban design is as bad as in Utah.

Appropriate username :) I spent most of my time in Eden and Ogden so I don't know anything about SLC's urban design beyond my impression of the sprawl from brief visits. Personally, I think terrible urban design is the norm in the US (in no small part to suburban sprawl) and SF/Bay Area are easily some of the worst offenders in my limited experience. I can't really think of any well designed cities in California beca…

Although, interestingly, the SLC design predates cars: http://99percentinvisible.org/episode/plat-of-zion/

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by rubicon33 »

kcorbitt wrote: post #37

This analysis may be reasonable as far as it goes, but it can still make financial sense for someone to live and work in the Bay Area. I recently took a new job near San Francisco paying ~$160k. Living cheaply, our actual consumption for my family of 3 is about ~50k a year. (Yes, this is possible -- and life can still be enjoyable if you like spending time in nature/other inexpensive activities.) After taxes, that le…

I'm sorry but your situation sounds like it simply doesn't apply to the average SF engineer.

For starters, your salary is about $30k more than the average SF salary.

You managed to find a decent sized 1 bedroom that is FAR below market rate in SF (~3500 to your 2200).

And although not as uncommon, it's still worth mentioning... You're married, and can share living expenses with another person. That means your already low rent of $2200 is even lower, compared to someone who might be single.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by ghaff »

walshemj wrote: post #146
r0m4n0 wrote: post #27

I have a much different cost of living equation supporting my decision to live in the bay. The big expense is obviously rent, which I'm sure they have represented... The average 1 bedroom in Austin around $1,000 and in SF let's say $3,300. Difference of $2,300 * 12 = $27,600. After that, that other $40,000 cost of living difference seems a bit of a stretch. In SF, my company buys breakfast, lunch, dinner and my trans…

At some stage the IRS is going start start taxing these benefits in kind (its easy money going begging) odd that they don't already as its easier to collect than going after dual nationals overseas I could see Trump ordering this as retaliation

It's been on the radar for a while. It slips under AFAIK because it's considered "a benefit to the employer." There are plenty of good reasons for employers to offer various food/drink benefits. As it approaches three premium meals a day as an advertised perk though, it's not hard to see it slipping into the crosshairs though.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by sthatipamala »

NotQuantum wrote: post #44
kcorbitt wrote: post #37

This analysis may be reasonable as far as it goes, but it can still make financial sense for someone to live and work in the Bay Area. I recently took a new job near San Francisco paying ~$160k. Living cheaply, our actual consumption for my family of 3 is about ~50k a year. (Yes, this is possible -- and life can still be enjoyable if you like spending time in nature/other inexpensive activities.) After taxes, that le…

As a newly graduated Site Reliability Engineer who's working in the Bay Area. I'm living and working in Sunnyvale, my expenses are way lower than expected, I was able to get a house a 20 minute bike away from work. I get a free caltrain pass, so I really don't need a car. I think the "cost of living" adjustment here is unfair. Sure, living in SF proper can cost you upwards of 8k-9k a month but there are MUCH more rea…

I cannot even imagine what kind of lifestyle would result in spending 8K a month in SF. I live in SF spending 4K a month for 2 people

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by walshemj »

ghaff wrote: post #214
walshemj wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At some stage the IRS is going start start taxing these benefits in kind (its easy money going begging) odd that they don't already as its easier to collect than going after dual nationals overseas I could see Trump ordering this as retaliation

It's been on the radar for a while. It slips under AFAIK because it's considered "a benefit to the employer." There are plenty of good reasons for employers to offer various food/drink benefits. As it approaches three premium meals a day as an advertised perk though, it's not hard to see it slipping into the crosshairs though.

HMRC went after just free tea and coffee at British telecom back in the .

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by w0rd-driven »

olva22 wrote: post #137

I'm wondering why the entire southeast of the US was left out of the analysis? I'd have imagined ATL or Miami would have enough data to add to the report and cost of living is fairly low even in comparison to many of these other cities.

I went through a round with hired.com and I'm based in Atlanta. While you can specify that you're not willing to relocate the selection of potential employers looking for someone here was seemingly low. It wouldn't surprise me if there was very little to no matches for whatever reason. I feel like Atlanta is a tech hub but some days it doesn't want to act like it. I would think Miami is somewhat similar with Nashville coming close behind but there aren't any concrete explanations. All I can really do is speculate from anecdotal evidence.

Re: 2017 State of Global Tech Salaries

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Post by w0rd-driven »

jorblumesea wrote: post #92

It's really hard to compare real world adjusted incomes because each government/country has varied outlooks on social benefits and safety nets. In the US salaries are high, but the government doesn't give you anything in terms of cheap educational, access to cheap healthcare etc. I'd be curious to see if there's a way to factor in a global compensation number that includes all factors like stock, education cost and s…

I didn't want to comment on this but my friend and I went through a batch and we could pretty much say the exact same thing. I wouldn't say the advocate wasn't terribly helpful. I blame it on the selection. Though my friend and I had different advocates and I seemed to jump through more hoops likely because I set my asking salary higher.
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