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Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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"I like Facebook, I use it often. $365B... for a message board. Yes, I use it. Yes, I think it is useful. Yes, I think this valuation is absolutely crazy." Not many todo lists have millions of users, including some that pay actual money for the service. Having looked at many project management tools, Trello has absolutely nailed certain aspects of the user experience that many of the others get wrong. Try pasting an…

Not quite the same right? FB is way more than a message board. And even back then when they were just a MB, they had millions of users in no-time.

My point is that TodoMVC is a todo list. Trello is a lot more than that.

FB has 3 orders of magnitude more value than Trello with 2 orders of magnitude more users.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

Like most software companies, Atlassian products are a mixed bag. I've been pretty happy with their FishEye + Crucible tools for source code search and code reviews.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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I'm a big fan of Trello but I dread using Atlassian products. I do not have a good feeling about this. Hopefully Atlassian can learn from what makes Trello so wonderful instead of JIRA-ifying it into oblivion.

Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

> I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.

This my experience as well. What are people using that works so much better than JIRA?

JIRA has problems, but it's far better than any other project tracking/management tool I've tried. Managing projects (especially ones with large or multiple teams) is impossible without tools like this, and I haven't seen anything that makes the process painless.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Fog Creek's model tends to involve spinning off their runaway hits into separate companies. They've done this with StackOverflow and Trello. Trello has been an independent company since 2014. (Although I'm not sure what kind of ownership position Fog Creek had).

Why would Fog Creek give away any ownership?

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Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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This is a great acquistion for both parties. 1. Trello was smart in only taking $10M in VC funding [1]. This allows for a 40x return for it's investors. If Trello were like many other startups, they probably would have taken too much VC money and got themselves in a situation where the VC wouldn't sell unless it was $2B+. 2. Atlassian now has a product that is loved by many developers and business people alike. It wi…

$10M in funding implies a valuation of $50-100M, which means a 4-8x return not a 40x return.

Also, I'm pretty sure that investment wasn't for 100% ownership, so it's not like that $10 million turned into $400 million. The return would have to be proportional to ownership percentage.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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So Fog Creek - makers of Fogbugz, which lost out bigtime to JIRA - have now sold Trello to Atlassian? Is there nothing left of Fogbugz?

They spin out each of their products (Stack Overflow, Trello) as separate corporations so Fog Creek didn't own Trello. Edit: I guess the spinning-out doesn't say anything about ownership (though the article does say Trello did a round of funding after the spin-out)

Stack was never owned by Fog Creek was it? I thought the only relation was that they shared Joel as a co-founder.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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What does this have to do with h GitHub?

JIRA + Bitbucket (and now + Trello) is a very effective competitor to Github among enterprise companies. Github's issue tracker sort of sucks and this hurts it tremendously -- I know as I live with that shitty issue tracker in an enterprise situation.

Yah, we're fighting this too. We have back and forth with various devs on our team - some use github, we all have to use Tracker.

Just curious as to what you think Github could do to fix this. I have a list of wishes and I'm always curious what other people have.

Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M

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Oki-doki, time to move. Does anyone know or, better yet, use any good self-hosted Trello alternatives?

Try Active Collab. It does wonders for my team.

How is it self-hosted?

If you are to astroturf, at least show some diligence.

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