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Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by tdb7893 »

erokar wrote: post #34
martijn_himself wrote: post #18

I can't believe anyone using macOS for their professional workflow would consider switching to Windows 10 despite all the criticism leveled at Apple's hardware (most of which I think is totally justified). I use Windows professionally (for .NET development) and I think Windows 10 is still light-years behind, with an unstable, jarring OS experience full of bugs and niggles and unloved and underdeveloped touch interfac…

If by "professional workflow" you mean programming, I agree. But I'd have no problem using Linux for that instead of MacOS. However, for many "professional workflow" means using the MS Office suite and a browser. For that use, Windows 10 is not only adequate but better than MacOS.

I've had fine experiences with Java, Javascript, and Python development on windows. I've developed also on Mac and Linux and after maybe a getting used to the the workflow on each system I haven't found the OS to be a major impediment for me outside of some tools and libraries only existing on certain platforms.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by lmm »

matt_wulfeck wrote: post #181
dmalvarado wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The thing with that though is that you can buy a Surfacebook in a lot of different places. Macbook is mostly the Apple Store, or at least that is the perception. Ever notice how unbusy the Apple section at Best Buy is?

Maybe it's my own experience, but I've only ever see a surfacebook at the MS flagship store.

I bought mine at John Lewis, FWIW.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by haar »

pentae wrote: post #201
jstsch wrote: post #130

Just to chime in. Since the displeased are always loud. I got my maxed out TouchBar MBP 15" about two weeks ago and I'm really happy with it. It replaces a Mid-2010 MBP 17". It's light, fast and has a gorgeous screen. After a week, I even prefer the new thin keyboard versus the old. My external keyboard feels like trudging through mud. No trouble hitting the ESC-key on the touch bar. The context awareness of it is ac…

So far my Macbook Pro 13" fully loaded has done a great job of replacing my Macbook Air. What does bug me though after spending over $2.5k (sales tax) for a brand new 'state of the art machine' I can't even play the new Civilization 6 on 1024x768 resolution and lowest possible settings without the computer fan on full blast to stop it from basically melting. It's utterly pathetic.

Why did you get a 13" when they have no dedicated graphics card? Assuming you have the best on-board graphics for the 13" MBP it isn't much better than the minimum requirements for Civ 6: http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Iris-550-Mobile-S...

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by lmm »

mark_l_watson wrote: post #196
criddell wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The OS puts Candy Crush in your menu and it's installed on demand. So to users it will seem like it's always been installed. All the pre-installed software is my big pet peeve for Windows 10. I don't want weather, or contacts, or xbox, or 3d builder, or email, or alarms, or skype, or office, or calendar, or groove, or money, or news, etc... I've deleted them and they just come back because of some provisioning settin…

Buy a signature edition laptop directly from the microsoft store, then you will not et any crap-ware.

This isn't true. You get Candy Crush. That's the whole problem.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by revelation »

jstsch wrote: post #130

Just to chime in. Since the displeased are always loud. I got my maxed out TouchBar MBP 15" about two weeks ago and I'm really happy with it. It replaces a Mid-2010 MBP 17". It's light, fast and has a gorgeous screen. After a week, I even prefer the new thin keyboard versus the old. My external keyboard feels like trudging through mud. No trouble hitting the ESC-key on the touch bar. The context awareness of it is ac…

This is about the Surface, I'm not sure what motivates you to post an impromptu review of a MBP here.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by eddieroger »

shiftpgdn wrote: post #155

I am a Surface convert after Apple discontinued OS support and updates for my still powerful, healthy, relatively new Macbook. Surface is much more flexible and provides a greater degree of customization. It is the perfect hybrid between and tablet and a laptop device. I'm just as comfortable using it as a consumption device on the couch as I am using it as a production device on a desk. It really feels like Apple ha…

Which MacBook are you using that you consider "relatively new," but Apple stopped supporting? In my experiences with Apple, support has gone on for years, and in the case of my original iBook, a full decade. It has gotten shorter over the last few years, but Sierra officially supports computers from 2009, which after 7 years I don't consider new any more.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by spaceisballer »

Thaxll wrote: post #51
martijn_himself wrote: post #18

I can't believe anyone using macOS for their professional workflow would consider switching to Windows 10 despite all the criticism leveled at Apple's hardware (most of which I think is totally justified). I use Windows professionally (for .NET development) and I think Windows 10 is still light-years behind, with an unstable, jarring OS experience full of bugs and niggles and unloved and underdeveloped touch interfac…

Win10 is pretty stable, what issues are you referring to?

Win 10 is pretty stable, but I for one had all kinds of issues when it just installed the Anniversary Update on it's own. I couldn't use my start menu without the computer locking up for about a minute. Spent a few hours researching it, tried multiple fixes which didn't work.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

josefresco wrote: post #177
johnernaut wrote: post #115

I'm one of the people that switched from a MacBook Pro to the new Surface Book. The ENTIRE experience was dreadful for me. The day I went into the Microsoft store to purchase it (Black Friday), their credit card system was down, so I had to wait around for nearly 2 hours until they finally figured things out. That wouldn't typically upset me, but my brother-in-law went through something similar just 2 weeks prior. As…

Sounds like you were looking for excuse to go back to Apple.

It also sounds like MS has a few issues to work on.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by bitmapbrother »

akulbe wrote: post #143

I tried to like it. I have my Surface Book sitting here next to me. Windows 10 is much better than previous versions, and I like the direction MS seems to be moving. That said, I feel like in spite of how nice a machine the Surface Book is, QA is still sorely lacking on Windows 10. "Sleep of Death" (google it) and working in *nix 99.99% of the time is what killed it for me. Trying to make the workflow work, it's just…

Did they ever solve that "very hard computer science problem" with power management on the Surface Book? I don't think I've ever heard of a more condescending excuse to give to your customers than that.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by anjc »

johnernaut wrote: post #115

I'm one of the people that switched from a MacBook Pro to the new Surface Book. The ENTIRE experience was dreadful for me. The day I went into the Microsoft store to purchase it (Black Friday), their credit card system was down, so I had to wait around for nearly 2 hours until they finally figured things out. That wouldn't typically upset me, but my brother-in-law went through something similar just 2 weeks prior. As…

Lol

>The ENTIRE experience was dreadful for me.

Entire list of complaints: found the trackpad to be lacking. It just FELT a bit buggy.

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