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For complex designs the simulator that comes with the Vivado tools (Mentor's modelsim) is not going to cut it. I wonder if they are working on deals with Mentor (or competitors Cadence and Synopsys) to license their full-featured simulators. Even better, maybe Amazon (and others getting into this space like Intel and Microsoft) will put their weight behind an open source VHDL/Verilog simulator. A few exist but they a…

As someone who has little experience with FPGAs beyond some experiments with a Spartan-6 dev board that mostly involved learning to write VHDL and building a minimal CPU, I found the simulator to be of limited use. My tiny projects were small enough that the education simulator was plenty fast. It was nice when I didn't have the board available, and occasionally, the logic analyzer was useful when I didn't understand…

Simulations give you better controllability and better visibility. In other words, you can poke and prod every internal piece of the design in simulation land. In real hardware, not so easy.

That being said, you are far from alone as an FPGA developer in skipping sim and going straight to hardware. Tools like Xilinx's chipscope help with the visibility problem in real hardware too.

Re: Developer Preview – EC2 Instances with Programmable Hardware

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Wow Clifford is that you ? I hope this, exciting as it may be, won't make you leave open fpga efforts for the dark side (saw your talk last Fosdem, was very exciting)

No, Clifford is cliffordvienna on HN. He wrote Yosys (and amazing piece of software) and did the iCE40 reverse engineering (amazing work). I wrote the place and router, arachne-pnr.

And kudos for that.
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