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Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

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Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#211
So nobody's interested in sales?

It's a job that solves a lot of the problems people complain about in programming, like spending all day staring at the screen or not interacting with people or doing things that might be pointless.

The downside of course is that you eat what you kill.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#213
I did [0], but after that I reassessed, relaxed, decided not to push so hard... and raised my rates.

It's a job, and like any job it sucks (hugely) at times. It also provides money to keep my family, and I get to work on interesting, brain-teasing problems (sometimes! Damn web development).

Frankly, I'm not good at thinking what I'd do until I'm doing it. If I did something else it'd be one of:

    Research scientist
    University lecturer
    R&D
    Psychologist
    Photographer
I already had the option of a career as a photographer (back before the market tanked, which I saw coming) and classical musician. I'm (mostly) glad I chose neither.

0. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=10169937

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#214
post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can I ask how you got started in the field? I actually began my career in Accounting (my undergrad is in it), and still find the world of finance pretty interesting. Somewhere along the line I ended up in Engineering and have been a Software Dev ever since. But I do still think about getting into trading at some point, but not sure how to transition.

How does an accountant end up in "engineering" without going back to Uni and doing an engineering degree?

Ha. When my career started I was one of the first in the office with a relevant degree. Everyone else had started as an accountant. Which, if you think about the evolution of business computing, makes perfect sense.

Tangentially, presumably for the same reasons, both genders were evenly represented.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#215

I'm mostly happy with programming, but I often think I'd like to try working in a coffee shop, especially a Starbucks. I spend so much time in cafes as a customer, and I really appreciate the difference that a barista's smile or greeting can make to my day. I'm curious to experience that from the other side for a while. I also read books about retail businesses & brands & Starbucks & customer experience for enjoyment…

I've often thought about that, too, but it seems unaffordable. The pay for baristas seems too low to sustain family life. Am I wrong?

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#216
I've only been programming professionally for a year but can't see myself wanting to get out of it anytime soon, maybe ask me in 10 years to see if that view changes. But at the moment am thoroughly enjoying learning as much as I can - coming from a job I didn't enjoy as a full time baker to having my weekends back, normal social hours and just having more spring in my step by doing something I have a genuine passion for is a great feeling.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Programming involves very little creativity compared to actual art, so to call it a "creative art" is a gross exaggeration. A programmer is given a very specific set of tasks (eg. send data from A to B, fix bug, implement X), and his problems are mostly technical. This doesn't even compare to the creativity involved in a real artistic endeavor like designing your own videogame, writing your own screenplay, or composi…

Setting the "cool kid angst" aside, most art forms and especially song composition is a rather repetitive task where you compose certain rigid templates (tunes and chords) into a passable song according to demands and structure of current society, make your record company listen, have them edit the song, repeatedly master it until they are satisfied. My point is, however boring and repetitive, you still have some roo…

That's the point. The main difference here is getting told what to do. Even a song writer can get told what to do. Write a song about politics, or injustice or love, write a screenplay of x talking to y about z, paint using x color with y shape communicating z values.

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#218
Regarding all discussion about creativity and programming, I heard a usability expert that had been painting for 30 years say this about GUI engineering:

Usability as a subject is the opposite of art, it is kitsch. You actively try to make simple and obvious; to have just one possible meaning.

She also said that art/painting was the best of hobbies, but would have been the worst possible of jobs. Too little money and too many interested people, so it was a rat race.

Personally, I've found hundreds of subjects I love to learn about. But it seems only one thing I really love doing. So they'll have to break my cold fingers off the keyboard. I love to teach about subjects I love, but sadly lack all pedagogical talent. (Maybe I had liked art if I wasn't color blind or so unmusical that I can't clap hand to most of my favorite music. :-) )

Re: Ask HN: Have you ever thought of leaving programming for something else?

#220

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> smart but artless This is why it's so important for me to work on something people use . At a previous job I'd sometimes hit a wall. I would log into one of the production API hosts and tail -f the access logs, where I'd see many different people and applications using a piece of software that I'd help write. I'd grab an IP address and geolocate it and see where the person was from. The humanization of work can be…

Though I know that your intentions were harmless, I'd like to add that it's not a good idea to do such a lookup without a sound reason. At some places where I worked, I could have been fired for doing that unless I was looking to fix a bug and this particular bit of data was essential.

I'm going to assume that those companies u worked at had good intentions as well, but this seems like an unfounded fear.

Unless u are working on a heavily confidential project that has a certain legal anonymity requirement (in which case the user's IP should be scrambled anyway), I don't see how doing a whois query could create any damage.

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