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Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by setyfse4 »

hackuser wrote: post #136
794CD01 wrote: post #127

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They used to, and they decided to download and execute random malware, and never take security updates.

Isn't that their choice?

Not being confounded by choices they dont understand or care is also what they want.

Chrome and Firefox auto updating without user intervention by default is a good thing. If Chrome were to ask permission before downloading updates, many of them will just cancel it and get on with whatever they wanted to browse. If the system is compromised by malware because of an unpatched security issue, it is the vendor who takes the blame.

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Post by DrJokepu »

executesorder66 wrote: post #206
TylerE wrote: post #175

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Neither can Linux or OS X.

For Linux it only really needs to reboot for kernel updates. If you don't update your kernel often, then you could do updates every day and not have to reboot at all. At home I run Arch Linux, and I do updates almost every day. Usually my uptime can easily be measured in weeks. At work I have Windows 7 on my laptop. I have to restart my laptop twice a week at a minimum, because every tiny fucking update requires a re…

Windows 7 is almost 7 years old though. Just the other day I noticed that my Windows 10 machine updated its video driver without having to restart. Things have definitely improved since Windows 7.

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Post by tomjen3 »

kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #169
leonroy wrote: post #150

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Adding my voice to the chorus. The Microsoft Windows ecosystem is a god send for those wanting to enforce single sign on, roaming profiles and group policy to control things deploy Chrome, 7-Zip or all manner of apps straight to the desktop or lock down access for say the demo room machines but give full access to engineering notebooks and enforce things like password policy, mapped network drives, etc. It honestly j…

> When put together it really does work beautifully. Except for the forced reboots because their OS still can't completely update itself at run time.

I solved that by turning updates of. Not secure, technically, but neither is high blood pressure.

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Post by Kristine1975 »

TylerE wrote: post #175
kevin_thibedeau wrote: post #169

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> When put together it really does work beautifully. Except for the forced reboots because their OS still can't completely update itself at run time.

Neither can Linux or OS X.

Linux does support livepatching: https://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux....

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Post by bedane »

This reminds me of the mandatory updates for the cheapest windows 10 version.

In the era of bloated/invasive OSes and arbitrary pricing according to the customer's profile rather than according to the value of the product, you don't pay more for more features.

You pay more for the right to deactivate the unwanted features.

Some day you will have to pay for disabling all the "telemetry" and "unique advertiser ID" stuff. Or maybe that's already the case, I didn't bother checking.

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Post by tracker1 »

mikestew wrote: post #94
Animats wrote: post #51

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No. That's not how sales organizations for competent companies work. IBM, in the mainframe era, was very good at this. It was IBM policy that if you called anyone within IBM sales with a problem, it was the IBM employee's job to get you to the right people. All IBM salespeople had a little printed pocket book of phone numbers within IBM, a directory of contacts for various types of problems.

Man, I can't upvote this enough. Say what you will about the IBM of old or new, when you called you didn't have to put up with this runaround of putting the onus on the potential customer. "Hi, IBM, I'd like to give you money." "Just a moment, sir, and the next person you speak with will be the one that can help you." "Hi, Microsoft, I'd like to give you money but fuck me if I can figure out which SKU or how much." "…

I remember a friend of mine's company bought a $78k storage server around 1998, and one of the drives failed 4 months in, he called just to replace the drive and it took a call from the upstream vendor to get them to not try to sell them another >$70k storage server.

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Post by Kristine1975 »

hackuser wrote: post #136
794CD01 wrote: post #127

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They used to, and they decided to download and execute random malware, and never take security updates.

Isn't that their choice?

It is. But their choice impacts other people when the malware on their computer starts sending spam, takes part in a DDoS etc.

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Post by tracker1 »

digler999 wrote: post #137
levemi wrote: post #50

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You know given the title and the bait it presents to a particular kind of people I should have known better than share with people a positive thing about Microsoft and to suggest they think for themselves.

If you like MSFT so much, I have some spyware you can remove on my sister's laptop. only took me 4 hrs last time.

When my grandmother's computer finally died a couple years ago, I bought her a chromebook to replace it... mom liked it so much I gave her one... now about half of my family that I regularly talk to uses them.

Re: Microsoft no longer allows admins to block Windows Store access in Win10 Pro

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Post by Kristine1975 »

jalami wrote: post #158

Microsoft isn't the only guy doing this. I understand enterprise/professional customers have gotten exceptions for years, but for everyone else this is common practice on almost all other platforms. I still think it's a bad practice. Microsoft is just following the other companies that are winning and somehow doing so without pissing their userbases off. Their main asset, as I see it, are people that cannot or will n…

>iOS ... don't allow you to install outside of their appstore without running different builds

At least companies apparently can create their own appstore for their custom apps: https://developer.apple.com/programs/enterprise/

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Post by digi_owl »

brazzledazzle wrote: post #165
Someone1234 wrote: post #2

If Microsoft wants SMBs to use Enterprise then make the Enterprise edition more easily available to SMBs, don't try to force them to move to it by making petty little changes to make their life more difficult. I can go on the Google Apps website right now and buy myself seats with a few clicks and a few minutes. If I want to buy Windows Enterprise licenses it will take weeks, cost an unclear amount (at the onset), an…

No joke, it's like that in no small part because corporate types love it that way regardless of business size. If it's easy to buy licenses they'll find a way to go through a VAR anyway. I've seen a consultancy engaged to middle-man the Google Apps purchase and configuration and ultimately the only value they provided were a couple trainings and some initial configuration any idiot with a few minutes and the ability…

Why do this remind me of how big media had to dragged kicking and screaming into the streaming age?
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