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Re: TTIP Leaks

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Post by dosgonlogs »

ppod wrote: post #58
grecy wrote: post #33

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> This is a takeover attempt through the backdoor. In case it wasn't already immensely obvious, the third world war has been underway for some time. This one isn't a war fought with guns and bombs, it's a war fought with information, deals and economies. See China's massive economy and ownership of the US, the massive drop in oil price and what that's done to the world economy etc. The citizens of the world wouldn't…

>this is what we get when countries still want to dominate each other. The most peaceful, prosperous, and healthy period known in human history?

Healthy, peaceful and prosperous for who? Is this supposed to be a joke? I guess if it doesn't happen in the west, it doesn't count. Simply disgusting that someone could actually believe this.

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Post by Grishnakh »

tazjin wrote: post #120
burkaman wrote: post #93

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Isn't every current presidential candidate against TPP and TTIP? Except maybe Kasich, I guess.

Trump and Clinton are the only remaining candidates, and Clinton is flip-flopping on the issue depending on who she's talking to. She only recently did an anti-TPP U-turn - who knows what she stands for after being elected. Fortunately for us she won't be elected though!

Are you kidding? It's quite likely she'll be elected. Her unfavorability rating from polls is very high, but Trump's is even higher. I'm not sure how Cruz's compared, but it's way up there too. The only guy who has a low unfavorability rating is Bernie, and it looks pretty certain that he's not getting the nomination nor running as an independent.

What's going to happen with this election is anyone's guess IMO. It could be Trump vs. Clinton, in which case Clinton will likely win (lower unfavorability). Or it could be Cruz vs. Clinton, which again probably favors Clinton (IMO, Cruz is far more dangerous than Trump, but that's my opinion). Or, we could get a brokered GOP convention and Kasich could get the nomination, and in a Kasich vs. Clinton fight, Kasich will likely win. Or, Kasich could get the nomination, Trump could run as an independent splitting the ticket, and who knows who'll win, though likely it'll again be Hillary because Trump/Kasich will split the GOP voters. Or Bernie could change his mind and run as an independent since the DNC has screwed him over so much, making a 3-way or 4-way race with a completely unpredictable outcome (though it might end up with the House of Representatives making the decision).

Re: TTIP Leaks

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Post by Grishnakh »

PantaloonFlames wrote: post #155
Grishnakh wrote: post #145

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Well yes, but the question is just how large. In a small car, there probably simply wasn't enough room without completely changing the chassis design. But really, WhyTF do you need a 10k mile service interval? No one expects to drive 10k miles without refilling the fuel tank. No one even expects to drive 10k miles without refilling the windshield washer fluid tank! Car companies don't expect people to drive 10k miles…

> In a small car, there probably simply wasn't enough room without completely changing the chassis design. I am not an expert, but based on my understanding, the issue was not chassis design, but cost. http://www.autoblog.com/2015/09/30/vw-diesel-fix-would-have-... The reclaiming system would add to the cost of the vehicle, and operating it properly would also decrease fuel economy. Both would tend to decrease sales.…

Your link provides zero details and makes zero sense. What costs $300? They don't say.

The issue, according to everything I've read, is that they have an AdBlue system but they don't inject nearly enough of it to keep emissions down.

>The reclaiming system would add to the cost of the vehicle, and operating it properly would also decrease fuel economy.

They have a reclaiming system (DEF injection). It does not decrease fuel economy. DEF injects urea into the exhaust stream to catalyze NOx emissions into N2 and H2O.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_exhaust_fluid

>Because people want their cars to support their lifestyle, not vice versa.

Too bad. If they can be bothered to refuel their fuel and washer fluid tanks, they can be bothered to refuel a third tank too.

>The issue is not one of consumer trust. It's practicality. Gasoline filling stations are everywhere. Now: where can a consumer buy AdBlue or whatever the brand of urea is required by VW? No one wants a car that implies more complexity in their life.

BS. Go read the article. Lots of truck stops have AdBlue dispensers at the fuel pumps now. If consumers don't want to refill a second tank periodically, then they shouldn't buy a diesel vehicle.

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Post by vasilipupkin »

raftaa wrote: post #201
vasilipupkin wrote: post #161

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And the company and the executives pay taxes from the bottom line Thus, according to your own logic, the state, which pays social security and benefits is better off and is more fiscally sound

"And the company and the executives pay taxes from the bottom line" ... this is sarcastic isn't it? [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panama_Papers ] [ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luxembourg_Leaks ] [ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-05-22/google-joi... ]

So by your logic, since some companies and individuals evade some taxes, it follows that no companies and no individuals pay taxes?

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Post by Grishnakh »

Bombthecat wrote: post #64
tdkl wrote: post #37

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The corporations have hijacked the US government years ago it was always only the matter of time that they'll spread to EU. What saddens me more is that the cucked EU will let them, forgetting all the achievements this continent has to offer.

How else do you want to compete with Korea, China and Japan with there cheap workforce. There is no other than to dump down massively on social nets and wages.

Huh? Japan's workforce is among the most expensive in the world. There's a reason Japanese automakers have opened assembly plants in the USA and Mexico: the labor's cheaper.

Korea isn't all that cheap either, probably roughly equivalent to the US.

Re: TTIP Leaks

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Post by Grishnakh »

tommyman wrote: post #74
forgetsusername wrote: post #45

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> I'm not sure how much weight that has. > think he would support & exploit it every way he could I'm not going to claim to know Trump's ambitions but you're dismissing the source and countering with "that has no weight...I think..."? The article yesterday about the uninformed vs the misinformed mentioned this: in a time where we are overwhelmed with information, people dismiss things that don't agree with their prec…

I was really trying to stay out of debating the US presidential race (again, not american not my business, do not even know all the people up for election). So I was trying to generally say 'Don't trust what politicians say, look at what they do'. That's it. I should have used somebody other than Trump as example, it was just a contrived example. side note - I saw cruise/cruse/cruze (ted) introduce his running mate r…

Since you're not American, where are you from? If it's Europe, this is pretty bad:

>side note - I saw cruise/cruse/cruze (ted) introduce his running mate recently.

"Cruise" is either a kind of ship or a reference to a nutty but highly successful actor. I don't know what "cruse" is. "Cruze" is a car by Chevrolet, an American company, and probably not a model sold in Europe.

"Cruz", however, is Lyin' Ted's name, and it's a pretty common Spanish surname as I understand. Spain is in Europe, and assuming you're European, as most non-US posters are, probably not that far from you. (And if you're not European, the main other likely region would be Latin America, where it's completely preposterous that you wouldn't be familiar with that common surname.)

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Post by mod »

BookmarkSaver wrote: post #181
tazjin wrote: post #173

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Ah yes, do you remember when Jeb! Bush was going to be the Republican nominee? Everyone was very certain about it.

Yeah, before a single vote was cast. The votes are almost entirely in right now, and Sanders would need a miracle.

Of course, I was actually talking about winning the presidency. I'm not arguing about her actual chances, nor whether I want her to win--simply stating that she's a big favorite to win it in the markets.

62% on predictit, where people are estimating with their money.

Re: TTIP Leaks

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Post by mod »

dragonwriter wrote: post #182
BookmarkSaver wrote: post #181

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Yeah, before a single vote was cast. The votes are almost entirely in right now, and Sanders would need a miracle.

> The votes are almost entirely in right now, and Sanders would need a miracle. Its pretty unlikely that either candidate will have a sufficient number of pledged delegates. Hillary seems far ahead because of early statements of support from superdelegates, made at a time when her support numbers (both overall and within the party) were much higher, and here unfavorable ratings with the general election electorate mu…

You can buy Bernie for 5c.

https://www.predictit.org/Market/1232/Who-will-win-the-2016-...

If you believe he has any reasonable shot, I encourage you to put your money where your mouth is. Should be a good investment.

Re: TTIP Leaks

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Post by jethro_tell »

maxxxxx wrote: post #204
jethro_tell wrote: post #199

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>taxes too high. At 3%, while the majority of earnings goes to the company, the workers carry the tax bill @18%

Well that's the typical discussion at least in the US. "Look how much taxes the top 1% pay over those low income slackers."

I don't really know what you mean to say here, but generally, 'low income slackers' pay 18% -24% on their income and the rich pay significantly less then that as a percentage of income. Are you implying this is not the case?

Re: TTIP Leaks

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Post by jethro_tell »

vasilipupkin wrote: post #175
jethro_tell wrote: post #172

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I don't think the goal is getting more money into the coffers of the state. But, if that's a big win for you I guess it makes sense.

Well, in Germany people get pensions and benefits from the state. So, if your goal is to not have to reduce those, then yes, getting money into the coffers of the state is partially the goal

Sure, so the company can pay pennies on the dollar for pensions for employees after a life time of service. What a great deal?

What actually ends up happening is the people who carry the tax burden ( workers ) end up paying their own pensions. Which is fine, as long as we aren't pretending that the pensions is a benefit of working.

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