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Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Are the BTLE and WiFi the only changes? Still same CPU and RAM as the 2?

Since this is the first showings of it, we don't know yet. I haven't read the data yet but it'll likely cover only the newly added RF stuff, and the part 15 compliance for the FCC. We'll have to wait to hear from the pi foundation on the rest of the specs.

From elsewhere, I've read that it's the same 1G of RAM, but the CPU is now a quad-core 1.2Ghz arm64.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Gaming has evolved tremendously and there are a lot of not so great elements to vintage computing. I go back to games I spent days straight playing and find them impossibly awful. That said there are a lot of absolute gems. To find them search youtube for "best games".

Also, lots of classic PC games have fan made patches (or even remakes) that often remove bugs and help balance. Master of Orion and the original XCom are just two examples. More recently, the gamemaker version of Spelunky has people still fixing it.

... Kings Quest, Falcon 4.0

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Ha ha, I get your point, but the GAoVG is a specific era, roughly 1979-1985. :)

Wikipedia has https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_age_of_arcade_video_gam... Restricting to arcade games is probably justified. I'd say we are in the golden age of video games right now---at least in terms of popularity. And you can still get remakes of all the good old games, or even play the originals.

Well, there was a first golden age, which was followed by nintendo and the street fighter era, and so on. That's fine you want to make up new Golden Ages -- more good attention to video games the better -- but be sure people aren't thinking of the earlymid 80s when you use the term for other purposes.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Since this is the first showings of it, we don't know yet. I haven't read the data yet but it'll likely cover only the newly added RF stuff, and the part 15 compliance for the FCC. We'll have to wait to hear from the pi foundation on the rest of the specs.

From elsewhere, I've read that it's the same 1G of RAM, but the CPU is now a quad-core 1.2Ghz arm64.

Yea that got confirmed last night on the release of it. I can't wait for the software stack to catch up for the arm64 stuff. I hope the pointer size change doesn't negate too much of the speed gains it can bring.

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...Which is sad. I played Mario64 in Corn on a 400MHz K6-2 around Y2K. Nemu+1964+Project64 each handled more, but it seems like I had to wait for my Athlon XP before my machine was fast enough to be useful.

Good emulation is hard, especially when you're dealing with code that was built around the bugs, quirks, and timing issues that the original SNES authors had to deal with. Then you have to worry about buggy software that works because of undefined behavior [1, see Speedy Gonzales]. More recent emulators have focused more on correctness than speed, because it means less work trying to patch and hack around broken game…

I definitely know that. I've done work on an NES emulator, and a lot of the software uses the hardware in undocumented ways, like odd timing quirks, undocumented CPU opcodes, changing display registers mid-frame to achieve special effects, etc.

I've looked at the SNES and N64's hardware to consider contributing to an emulator for one of them, and the hardware certainly doesn't get simpler as time goes on ;-)

The comparison I was making isn't really fair, anyhow. Corn was fast, but the last revision only really covered two commercial games (Mario and Zelda). I'm sure that they heavily optimized for the code patterns in those specific games, without regard to accurate emulation of the hardware in the general case. Expand the supported cases and the problem immediately becomes much harder. Comparing Corn to an accuracy-focused emulator is like comparing one of the cut-down, portable-friendly SNES9x builds to Higan.

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Same here. I moved the AppleTV and the Roku to a wired connection and had to set up a second wireless network to be able to browse from the kitchen. Any time I fire up Wifi Analyzer on my tablet I see three dozen different networks. Making computers easy to use was, definitely, a huge mistake.

Assuming that last sentence is a joke...

It's known that many a true word is spoken in jest.

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Broadcom's "connection" to the project often seems circumstantial, like the Pi project is a blip on nobody's radar. Several of their engineers used to work at Broadcom and they've been under NDA lock and key, bending over backwards to help people progress on things that they can't officially talk about by leaving the least subtle clues ever so that they can move the process forward. The GPU/camera integration in part…

>bending over backwards to help people progress on things that they can't officially talk about by leaving the least subtle clues ever so that they can move the process forward That sounds pretty interesting, where can I read more about it?

If you hang out in the camera board and read a certain kind of post - generally people trying to get the camera to do stuff it's not easily able to do - you see guys like 6by9 and jamesh doing their best to help without getting in trouble.

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=4779...

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=108&t=133...

https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1091...

Re: Raspberry Pi 3 Model B confirmed, with onboard BT LE and WiFi

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Comparing the photos to my Pi 2, it doesn't seem very different. There's an extra IC near the microsd card, a connector beneath the HDMI port, and a few other small changes. But nothing that looks like an antenna. Any idea where that might be? Edit: as lovelearning pointed out, there is a small ceramic-looking piece in the upper-left of the top side, near the GPIO pins and LVDS display connector. That might be it.

Here's a Xray shot, https://twitter.com/oliverquinlan/status/704701651005915136/...

antenna : checked

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