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Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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post #65

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A friend of mine who does online arbitrage takes advantage of this. She'll take the lowest non-prime eligible price, mark it up 5% then set it to be 'fulfilled by amazon'. She knows that people will prefer Prime, even if a lower total cost item is available via free shipping.

How does she get the items back to Amazon to let them fulfill them?

Maybe I wasn't clear. She finds items in other places, ships them to the amazon warehouse, then sets the price +5%.

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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post #9

This is just assuming that they'll even let you order $49 worth of items in one box. I let my Amazon Prime lapse because I was rarely using it. A few weeks ago I decided to do a bulk order. I ordered 18 items with a total of $110. They split my shipment into three packages of approximately $50, $50, and one item by itself in another box for $10. Since one of the boxes didn't have $35, they tried to charge me shipping…

Weird. I have never experienced anything like that with Amazon. The boxing appears totally irrelevant to me (as per what I pay Amazon).

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The non-amazon shipped stuff on Amazon honestly had been a pain ever since they introduced it. If you have prime it mostly is just a huge nuisance.

A lot of it is such JUNK, too. Amazon has no qualms whatsoever about selling stuff that, frankly, belongs in the garbage. I've cooled off on Amazon a lot since earlier years because shopping on there is an experience fraught with angst thanks to trying to find the best trade-off between price and utility. Oftentimes the cheapest items for any given category (e.g. snorkel masks and touchscreen gloves, two recent thing…

I know - its like revenge of the show room.. I look for reviews on Amazon and then get it somewhere else..

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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All I can say about Amazon is the quality of the item selection has gone down so much that most times I take my time digging through reviews to ensure the padded 4 star rating isn't done by bots because I've bought some items that were 4 star rated only to find they were utter crap later. And this is only in the last two years for Amazon. I'm not sure what's happening but I can say that I'm looking closer to home for…

My suggestion is to sort reviews by verified purchasers. You'll get closer to the truth that way.

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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post #46
post #28

I figured this would happen soon enough. I just hope they leave Prime alone. I try hard not to "abuse" it any. I normally try to select the free no rush shipping and save the free 2 day shipping to the things I actually do need quickly when/if that need pops up. Having free shipping on any order has certainly changed my online shopping habits over the years. Other than food, I pretty much don't even go to the store f…

They've already raised the price of Prime

Yes a whole $20, shipping prices in general have gone up as well keep in mind.

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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post #46

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They've already raised the price of Prime

Yes a whole $20, shipping prices in general have gone up as well keep in mind.

That's a 25% raise, which is large. They can do what they want but the OP was indicating that they haven't mucked with Prime pricing and they have.

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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I always make sure I check off the "Prime Eligible" checkbox when searching Amazon. It sucks to find an item, go to buy it, and finding out it's going to take 4 weeks and $25 to ship from the UK or something.

I go a step beyond that, and will often also check Amazon as the seller. I've had too many mis-labelled products show up... Sometimes I forget, and that's usually when there is a problem. I'm almost inclined to go prefer local stores again, as Amazon's pricing advantages seem to have slipped, and if they raise the cost of Prime again, I'm definitely out. I've been a pretty loyal customer to Amazon, but honestly, they…

I ordered something from Amazon, with Amazon as the seller, and with the Prime filter checked. It was marked as having low remaining inventory. After I purchased, and the item failed to arrive with the rest of my order, I saw that it had been moved to a separate order, from a different seller, with an additional $10 shipping charge and an additional week of delay.

Look, Amazon, you have a real problem with sorting and filtering. What I really want is a way to order goods by the final, bottom-line price, including all taxes and shipping costs. If something costs $20 plus $10 in shipping, it should rank after a similar thing that is $25 plus $0 shipping.

The Prime filter is the only way I can even approach that problem from my end. It forces the cost of shipping to be included in the price of all items, at the expense of not seeing potentially cheaper items. But even then, Amazon can't even manage to sort correctly by price. Nor does it handle quantities in a package very well.

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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All the items were eligible for free shipping, according to Amazon. Some of the items were from individual merchants, but all of those were FBA (so they were warehoused at an Amazon facility). It's possible that even though they were eligible for free shipping, they weren't all in the same facility. If that was the case, I would understand why they were put into separate boxes. What doesn't make sense is removing one…

>All the items were eligible for free shipping, according to Amazon. What amazon says on their main page is very disconnected from reality. What it says on checkout is what matters. When I buy stuff from Amazon, they have a little checkbox on the side that says "only items that ship to Iceland". Never the less, when I get to the checkout 90% of the stuff they show won't ship to Iceland.

I bet this is related to another quirk, where "sort by price" doesn't really result in things being in the expected order.

I suspect (because I have a similar challenge in our own ecommerce system) that the model underlying the representation of products has at least one additional layer of specificity, that's not directly revealed to the user. Consider that you're looking at Products, but what they're really manipulating are products as sourced from a particular supplier.

Each of those "supplier-items" has its own price (because with Amazon marketplace, the supplier gets to set their own), as well as its own potential shipping destinations.

When you project that into search results as a list of Products, what you wind up with is a list of "Products for which there's at least one supplier willing to ship to Iceland". And the sorting is something like "order by lowest price offered by all suppliers". When you click on that product to go to Product Details, and then just click "Add to Cart", they've lost the thread of "I need to select a supplier of this product that will ship to Iceland".

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

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post #41
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One look at their finances and it's clear why they're doing this. According to their SEC filings, last year Amazon brought in $6.5 billion in shipping revenue [1], and spent $11.5 billion on shipping costs. Take those numbers together and they lost $5.0 billion subsidizing shipping. They lose more money on shipping every year than most startups make in a decade. It's a huge cost on their budget, not hard to see why m…

In a certain way, isn't that like saying BestBuy spend $X billion on storefront real-estate and made $0 in people paying in "walk-out-the-storefront-with-your-item" charges? Shipping revenues will never cover shipping costs as long as they provide even one free shipment a year (and don't overcharge people paying for shipping). Shipping is one of those costs that you have to pay like having storefronts. The goods have…

> and don't overcharge people paying for shipping

Do you necessarily believe they do this? Because I wouldn't be so quick to give benefit of the doubt...

Lots of (much smaller) companies do offset their free shipping in this way, even if they can't totally even it out.

Source: ran an online small business shipping small physical products.

Re: Amazon Free Shipping minimum is now $49

#220

Amazon finally decided to stop losing a little on every sale and making it up in volume. This looks like a classic dumping strategy -- sell products below cost (and evading sales/use tax, wink wink) to bankrupt competitors, and then raise prices.

And then watch competitors come back. I look forward to the return of some competition.
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