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Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by Encosia » Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 6:25 PM UTC

untog wrote: post #143

Encosia wrote: post #141

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You do run into messy ones that you basically have to repair before you use, but those themes are often very high quality under the hood.

Would that repair cost more than $99 of developer time? Probably.

The messy ones? Sure. Most of them haven't needed any work at all though.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by mdo » Thu, Aug 20, 2015, 7:47 PM UTC

ramigb wrote: post #39

4 major versions and still not official direction support! that's why i use Foundation because it offers RTL support out of the box.

Definitely need to do it. We tried to do it as part of v3 but ultimately left it to the community. We saw a few good things come of it, but it's on my bucket list for the future.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by davemac8 » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 6:17 AM UTC

niutech wrote: post #174

I can understand rem units in font-size, but why use rem in media queries instead of px? The same with margins - when I get the PSD file from the designer, I will have to convert all margins from px to rem.

Foundation has a Sass function to do this called rem-calc(pixel size), not sure if there is a Bootstrap equivalent.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by jaredklewis » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 1:03 PM UTC

JuanSoto wrote: post #91

at-fates-hands wrote: post #63

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>>> I don't care where you land on the side of the debate whether to use Bootstrap or not. I used to be totally against Bootstrap for a myriad of reasons. Then I got hired to build a fairly complex transactional application for a large health care organization under a tight schedule. Bootstrap allowed me to get a UI up and running super fast with all the components I needed, out of the box. It literally saved me hund…

I never got the hate for Boostrap or other frameworks. They definitely save a lot of time, and you don't necessarily end up looking like every other site if you put in some effort[1]. [1] http://expo.getbootstrap.com/

But even if they did all the look the same, how would that be negative?

How terrible would it be if all your desktop apps had completely different UI components? Indeed, people seem to greatly prefer desktop apps that follow the style and UI conventions of their OS.

So if the Internet were largely made of pages powered by a few popular UI frameworks, I really think it would be a huge boon to users everywhere. UIs would be more familiar and consistent. Seems like a great step forward.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by gapchuboy » Fri, Aug 21, 2015, 8:22 PM UTC

sdnguyen90 wrote: post #135

mdo wrote: post #27

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Thanks for noticing! :) I spent a lot of time deleting stuff lol. Still more to optimize around though as we work through the alphas.

Saw on your Twitter that V5 will use PostCSS... Is this still planned? If so, any specific details on how it will be used?

I am wondering why it wasn't ported from Less to PostCSS? SASS is more popular, but that port would be too much of disruption of workflows.

Re: Bootstrap 4 alpha

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Post by roeeba » Sat, Aug 22, 2015, 12:56 AM UTC

The wait for RTL still not over? I've delayed project for long time while waiting to the official RTL support. I remember you bumped up the RTL support to XXX version and after that to YYY version.

You ignore the large population reads text from right to left

Please add RTL support to Bootstrap 4 we need it