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A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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So, other people make more, and you'd make yourself unhappy in retaliation?

His value system is consistent with the cultural norm (higher pay for longer harder work). In my opinion you shouldn't act like he is the one acting strange.

He's not acting strangely, just irrationally. The two, unfortunately, are unrelated.

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> Two of Mr. Price’s most valued employees quit, spurred in part by their view that it was unfair to double the pay of some new hires while the longest-serving staff members got small or no raises. Man, that must have been awkward to explain to anyone who stopped by while you were cleaning out your desk. "Yeah, I'm quitting because you don't deserve more money, peasant. It was really nice working with you, though!"

"I mean, Jesus Christ! If there are a bunch of really happy and super loyal people working here and that does great things for the company then maybe it'll turn out that I'm not as important as I think I am and then what?!"

"Uh, you'll try not to let the door hit you on the way out?"

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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Some people care about things other than what's immediately in front of their faces on a day-to-day basis

True but paying people more than necessary in a lot of ways contradicts his role as CEO.

I could point out, as others have, that he knows better than you do what's "best for the company"; that people who are under financial stress have been proven to be significantly worse at intellectual tasks; that by erasing his employees' worries about rent and student loans and feeding the kids, he could be dramatically increasing their productivity and thus improving the company's bottom line in the long run.

But I shouldn't have to do that, because I shouldn't have to make an economic argument for being a decent human being. I mean, Jesus Christ, come on.

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While I have no idea whether this will work (or if it's a good idea), the most interesting part of all of this, to me, is the backlash from people calling it "unbridled Socialism." I'm still not sure how a CEO of a profitable company electing to pay his employees more becomes a political debate. If it fails, perhaps it's a failed experiment in Capitalism? It's not like anyone is forcing the business owner to do this.…

> the backlash from people calling this "unbridled Socialism." It depends on the CEO's reasoning for paying the employees more. If he paid them more for economic reasons, reducing turnover, or incentive pay for increased performance, or a retention bonus or something like that then it's capitalism. If he paid them more because he's moralising about society, or out of pity, or fear of some kind of social backlash, the…

To paraphrase Oscar Wilde, you can judge a man--or a cause--by their enemies. Nothing makes me more interested in embracing socialism than Rush's rush to define socialism as "any action that shows concern for your fellow human."

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> you'd switch to a more balanced lifestyle? Don't force your value system on others. I personally am happiest when I'm working 70-80 hours a week and appreciate being compensated for my hard work. Just because that doesn't describe you doesn't mean I should be forced to attain an artificial "balance."

So, other people make more, and you'd make yourself unhappy in retaliation?

> So, other people make more, and you'd make yourself unhappy in retaliation?

No, but I would start looking for another job. If the company has the excess profit to be giving out huge raises, I'd be upset that those raises were allocated only to low performers.

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Am I crazy for thinking it seems naive to not anticipate that current employees may not take kindly to people who earn half as much as them getting bumped up to their salaries?

Nope, just revealing your our primate ancestry.

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> How about observing how well they perform before bringing in your Ayn Rand propaganda. While I agree with the rest of your post, your portrayal of Ms. Rand's work is woefully inaccurate. No where do I recall she wrote of demeaning blacks, suppressing wages and preventing the equal participation of all capable people in a common market. Rand was very clear that racism and discrimination hindered the free market by p…

Hahahahah fuck off "They (Native Americans) didn't have any rights to the land, and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights which they had not conceived and were not using. What was it that they were fighting for, when they opposed white men on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence, their 'right' to keep part of the earth untouched, unused and not even as property, but just keep…

I'd recommend you start your post in a more serious manner, if you'd like it to gain serious readership.

Re: A Company Copes With Backlash Against the Raise That Roared

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Right. From the article: Several employees who stayed, while exhilarated by the raises, say they now feel a lot of pressure. “Am I doing my job well enough to deserve this?” said Stephanie Brooks, 23, who joined Gravity as an administrative assistant two months before the wage increase. “I didn’t earn it.” (edit) I understand the gut feeling of unfairness from the people who were already earning more than $70K, but s…

I think they assume correctly. I know all sorts of people who are extremely well paid who spend at least 30% of their time just waltzing around the office and chatting with people. Some people are just entitled &/or clueless.

There's a difference between well paid and overpaid.

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Hahahahah fuck off "They (Native Americans) didn't have any rights to the land, and there was no reason for anyone to grant them rights which they had not conceived and were not using. What was it that they were fighting for, when they opposed white men on this continent? For their wish to continue a primitive existence, their 'right' to keep part of the earth untouched, unused and not even as property, but just keep…

I'd recommend you start your post in a more serious manner, if you'd like it to gain serious readership.

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