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1.5 Million Missing Black Men
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Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men
#202The numbers are boggling. I don't understand how Americans tolerate such a blatantly racist prison system. http://www.naacp.org/pages/criminal-justice-fact-sheet
Perhaps it is because American politics use racism as a wedge, to divide dissent groups into non-cooperating entities. That results in many unpleasant consequences, but it does keep the public distracted away from any issues of actual importance in any given elections cycle, such as sound budgeting, police militarization and accountability, media consolidation, monetary and fiscal policy, and corruption within the elections system.
Noting that the criminal-processing industry uses mostly black men as its working fluid is of secondary importance to noticing that the system has long since ceased to be a cost center justified by the benefit to public safety, and policing is now a corrupt and for-profit business.
Americans tolerate such a blatantly racist system because the racism is just one outward symptom of a disease that is nigh impossible to cure without also killing the patient, namely that policing and prosecution are performed with ever-decreasing respect for the civil rights of the public, and the constitutional boundaries imposed upon the state's agents.
I can't even get the freaking Homeowners' Association to stop bothering me about the variety of plants on my lawn. I can't imagine how I could possibly overcome the momentum behind the entire system, short of open rebellion.
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#203Earlier quoted context omitted.
How does this belong in HN? And have you looked at what those countries been put through by us? It's easy to believe media propaganda, but are you doing yourself or the world a favor by willfully ignoring the real geo-political reasons that caused so many crises in those regions?
I'm pretty sure no geo-political reasons cause many middle eastern societies to treat woman lower than dogs and cats. Those my friend, are religious and cultural norms put in place by their own people. No amount of external pressure has ceased the ungodly treatment of woman, homosexuals and other "miscreants" as they are deemed in much of the middle east.
> I'm pretty sure no geo-political reasons cause many middle eastern societies to treat woman lower than dogs and cats.
The U.S. and western powers keep the conservative Middle Eastern dictatorships in place, preventing any social and political reform. That is, in fact, a major cause of resentment by people of the Middle East toward the West.
In fact, Al Qaeda's goal is to overthrow the Middle Eastern dictatorships (and inflict their own oppressive dictatorship on the people there). They targeted the U.S. because they believed that American support is the reason those governments are stable, and that they first have to drive the U.S. out of the Arabian Penninsula.
The people in most Middle Eastern countries have no choice in the matter, and geopolitics is a major reason why.
Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men
#204Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interracial marriage only works as a "solution" if there were an inverse imbalance in other racial communities to supply the men needed to fulfil the shortfall. It also completely ignores the fact that people in the black communities may not wish to date people from other races. it isn't a breading farm after all, people's choices matter a lot. If black woman want to date a black man, that is completely normal/unders…
You are starting from the assumption that it is normal that people date inside of their "race". This is an assumption that is very often made by Hollywood movies and which I find offensive, all the more because it is self-fulfilling: if you only see people of the same skin color dating one another, you're probably less likely to imagine yourself outside of the norm you perceive.
> You are starting from the assumption that it is normal that people date inside of their "race".
This assumption is very much true in modern American society, though somewhat less so than previously.
Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men
#205Earlier quoted context omitted.
I can't find the study to cite, but if I remember correctly an old study found that while most males of all ethnicities are open to relationships with females of different ethnicities given attractive qualities are sufficient (I could be wrong but only physical attraction was measured in this study); they found that most females tend to only go for males within their own ethnic group. The exception was Asian women wi…
In Asian culture Asian woman always have a strong preference for other Asians (this is of course generalizing across the different Asian cultures), especially from the same Asian race. But there's a strong fetishizing of Asian women by certain non-Asian men so there's a disproportionate amount of Asian-women-chasing by white men that gets misconstrued as preference by Asian women. If everyone preferred blue M&Ms, you…
Simply not true. As another user pointed out, "it takes two to tango."
And from personal experience, Asian women are just as into white men as white men are into Asian women.
I'm a white guy, and the only women who have ever been super into me immediately after meeting me in a club have been Asian. This has happened multiple times in clubs in SF, LA, Hong Kong, and Shanghai.
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#206Earlier quoted context omitted.
> There is nothing white people can do to fix this. Well, except confronting our own biases, encouraging diverse hiring practices, confronting both overt and covert racism when we see it, educating ourselves on racial privilege, fighting racial profiling and sentencing in our justice system, and just in general fighting for racial equality.
You're a Cultural Marxism peddler. I am white and I think I am in the very same group as blacks and all other races, namely the group called "individuals". All we need to do is fight for individual rights and teach people respect is earned on an individual basis. Nothing can be assumed from group membership in real life; every leftist would agree with this statement, yet you want to make laws based on group membershi…
> Nothing can be assumed based on group membership.
Nothing should be, but unfortunately for many minority groups, it is. The fact that it doesn't affect you is the great benefit of being white (and, if such things don't affect you, probably male).
Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men
#207Earlier quoted context omitted.
Trouble is, it got that way one arrest at a time. Each one may seem defensible in isolation. Its only by looking at the statistics that the problem leaps out at you. So you noticed, and wrote a blog entry. What actionable plan can we suggest? Or will we just make more blog entries. I honestly don't have any answer.
Writing congress, writing your rep, fighting for police and justice reform, donating to the southern poverty law center http://www.splcenter.org/ and the ACLU.
I don't think the SPLC is really in the same league as the ACLU. SPLC is entirely politically motivated. The SPLC is famous for their "hate group" list. The problem is, a hate group is whatever the SPLC says it is. Their criteria are quite loose and their application of that criteria is quite loose as well. You won't find eco-terror and animal rights groups on the SPLC hate group list because it doesn't align with SPLC's political ideology. One might try to rationalize the hypocrisy by pointing out that the SPLC says it applies hate speech based on hate for "immutable characteristics" but SPLC seems fine to bend that rule to denounce anti-religious hate.
I hope anyone reading your comment and feeling generous donates to the ACLU instead of the SPLC.
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#208Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that boys need exposure to women before adulthood, with the exception of their mother, is a relatively modern one. The extent to which the modern west mixes the sexes through education and other social activities is unprecedented, so the Middle East is not nearly alone in this respect. Of course, things change in adulthood, and if young Middle Eastern men who would normally be entering stable relationships w…
The major restraining factor on young men in a village or tribal setting was always the rest of the village. When the demographics became unbalanced (war, famine) then young gangs were always to be feared (Peter Pans lost boys would not have been cute) We are fortunate in having overcome hunger in 4/5ths of the world - but it has left a lot of time on people's hands compared to a hunter gather lifestyle and a lot of…
I remember a debate about high achieving black women "marrying down" (with school dropout black guys on low income) or "marrying out" with white guys.
Attitude seems to be changing for the better anyway.
Here's also an article [0] on the subject that cause quite a stir back in 2011.
[0]:http://www.npr.org/2011/06/29/137499303/author-tells-black-w...
Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men
#209Earlier quoted context omitted.
The idea that boys need exposure to women before adulthood, with the exception of their mother, is a relatively modern one. The extent to which the modern west mixes the sexes through education and other social activities is unprecedented, so the Middle East is not nearly alone in this respect. Of course, things change in adulthood, and if young Middle Eastern men who would normally be entering stable relationships w…
The major restraining factor on young men in a village or tribal setting was always the rest of the village. When the demographics became unbalanced (war, famine) then young gangs were always to be feared (Peter Pans lost boys would not have been cute) We are fortunate in having overcome hunger in 4/5ths of the world - but it has left a lot of time on people's hands compared to a hunter gather lifestyle and a lot of…
Not exactly highbrow research, but OkCupid has an interesting post indicating that black women are less likely to get replies in their online dating service: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/your-race-affects-whether-...
Re: 1.5 Million Missing Black Men
#210Earlier quoted context omitted.
OKCupid has explored the topic of interracial dating repeatedly using their dataset. The most(?) recent results are here: http://blog.okcupid.com/index.php/race-attraction-2009-2014/ Relevant summary: Black women are subjected to substantial penalties in the dating market by men of other ethnicities. In fact, black women are the recipients of the highest inter-racial penalties of any racial pair measured by OkCupid.…
Perhaps there are other correlating factors such as obesity that tie into these disparities: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/databriefs/db131.htm
It's almost not worth addressing, but read your source carefully and note that the disparity isn't enormous. Most Americans skew toward obese.