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a single room that fits thousands of people. What a nightmare. These "glass palace" offices may work for bankers or marketing teams. For programmers you could just as well plant their desks into the middle of a mall.
>>On the roof is a 9-acre park with walking trails and many outdoor spaces to sit and work.
That's awesome.
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Yes, obviously, but how is it possible for the building to withstand the weight of the dirt, grass and trees?
If you design for 100 story buildings, you can design for a few story building with dirt on top.
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The problem is that cuts out 99%+ of all employers. When was the last time you interviewed someplace that gave all programmers their own office?
Plenty of places give programmers their own office. The trick is finding one that gives each programmer a separate office.
I would literally switch jobs (and perhaps careers, if every company was like this) if forced to work in an open office like this. I cannot work that way; I can't focus. I realize that I'm adding nothing constructive to this thread; I don't care. Maybe some manager somewhere will see this and a hundred other anecdotal opinions and think twice about open offices. I am the opposite of a prima donna. I just want to work…
Have heard the exact same sentiment from numerous Bookfaces in the months leading up to this move.
I would literally switch jobs (and perhaps careers, if every company was like this) if forced to work in an open office like this. I cannot work that way; I can't focus. I realize that I'm adding nothing constructive to this thread; I don't care. Maybe some manager somewhere will see this and a hundred other anecdotal opinions and think twice about open offices. I am the opposite of a prima donna. I just want to work…
"Why don't you take a nice walk to clear your mind. Might I suggest our 9-acre roof which is a park?"
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they made a building that covers 9 acres and put dirt and grass and trees on top of it.
Yes, obviously, but how is it possible for the building to withstand the weight of the dirt, grass and trees?
a single room that fits thousands of people. What a nightmare. These "glass palace" offices may work for bankers or marketing teams. For programmers you could just as well plant their desks into the middle of a mall.
The offensive part is the people who say that open offices are MORE EFFICIENT than a traditional office. I have a hard time believing that one. Given how high programmer salaries are, the productivity loss due to open offices is almost definitely more than the office space savings. It seems like an introvert/extrovert thing. The introverts would prefer a quiet working space (and they're usually the best workers), but…
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Do you think it'd be okay to rent your computer from your company and pay for your office space and desk? Or split the costs of their servers or cloud costs with their employees? No, nobody sane thinks this. My point is that parking (or some reasonable transit alternative) should be figured into the operating costs for the company. Acting like employees don't need to actually get to work is not a good way to run a bu…
When deciding between two offers just monetize all perks that you expect to use including convenience factor. Parking not provided? Subtract (Daily parking rate + parking_time hourly_rate) 200 / (1-marginal_tax_rate) from salary. Provides CalTrain pass? Add $45 dollars to salary (I expect to use it 3 times/year).
I would literally switch jobs (and perhaps careers, if every company was like this) if forced to work in an open office like this. I cannot work that way; I can't focus. I realize that I'm adding nothing constructive to this thread; I don't care. Maybe some manager somewhere will see this and a hundred other anecdotal opinions and think twice about open offices. I am the opposite of a prima donna. I just want to work…