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Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by cowardlydragon »

edpichler wrote: post #165

This is just the first release of another killer product from Apple. To compare, the first iPhone did not have some basic features found in many cell phones, including stereo Bluetooth support and 3G compatibility. I really believe that Apple will earn a ton of money, like in the first years of iPod or iPhone era. And the watches market size, bigger than cell phones, computers and portable music. It's a pity to do no…

Seriously?

A killer product from apple innovates on battery life, form factor, materials, and especially software. At least some or all of those come into play to make for a superior product.

This is debatably better than the Moto 360.

Oh, and it's VAPORWARE, not being released until next year after Christmas.

I agree with others. This is a sign that Apple is no longer a leader in innovation. The glow of Jobs is fading from the company, despite how much I hate his beatification.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by hatfieej »

laichzeit0 wrote: post #49
Igglyboo wrote: post #38

really hate the curved look, bringing back memories of the 3GS. I thought we moved on to sharp corners.

I'm so glad I'm not the only one on this. Really dislike the curved / beveled designs.

I think part of the reason for the curve is to give the illusion that it's thinner than it really is.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by cowardlydragon »

drinchev wrote: post #182

Yeah okay, blah blah. I was at IFA Berlin 2014 and asked the SONY lady: "Hey what's the killer feature of your watch?". She said "It shows the time and tracks your steps!". IMHO Apple Watch did a great job. I couldn't find any smart watch that have navigation ( although with a paired smartphone ) and a possible ecosystem of apps that can use it. The whole IFA ... nobody could offer this. Althought, Of course it might…

Moto 360 is supposed to do navigation.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by alwaysdoit »

masklinn wrote: post #155
taude wrote: post #146

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeup. So wake me when this becomes a reality: I'm sure somone's patenting building a cellular antenna into a watch band as I type this. Plus, I'm sure 6G networks will be faster and require even less power....

The antenna is not the problem, the radio chips (and power) are.

Specifically, you need enough power to regularly transmit an electromagnetic signal on the order of miles that scales with the inverse square law.

Considering that they can't even get the battery life up without that requirement, it might be a while unless we make significant scientific breakthroughs in battery or wireless technology.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by eloisant »

taude wrote: post #146
masklinn wrote: post #135

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> I'm thinking Minimum Viable Phone (or communications device) that I can wear on my wrist when doing thing, and have some casual interactions with text messaging, and glancing at emails)... The problem's these require extensive radio interaction/SoC, without a phone support (which can stream the information via bluetooth LE) you have to carry that in the watch itself.

Yeup. So wake me when this becomes a reality: I'm sure somone's patenting building a cellular antenna into a watch band as I type this. Plus, I'm sure 6G networks will be faster and require even less power....

They exist, but I don't think the experience is great.

http://fr.aliexpress.com/item/Intelligent-Bluetooth-watch-mo...

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by [deleted] »

72deluxe wrote: post #183
lhnz wrote: post #136

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Whether this will be useful all rests on the quality and differentiation of the haptic feedback. For example, imagine walking down the street towards your destination and feeling the right side of the watch vibrate to signal that you should turn right. If your watch can communicate contextual information related to your intention and local then it will be superior to (1) wearing a socially inappropriate device like t…

Is your wrist sensitive enough to determine whether the right or left of your phone has buzzed if you're walking?

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Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by fidotron »

This is an intriguing situation because while the "No wireless, less space than a Nomad. Lame." comment will always haunt those that criticise Apple product launches this is the first one in years where the product looks more like it's actually the Nomad being mentioned, and the iPod has yet to arrive.

I'm going so far as to say that smartwatches and VR represent the desperate flailing of a tech industry that's run out of ideas that will connect with people. We had a good boom post iPhone, but this kind of thing just doesn't look like there's any point to it.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by RyJones »

Shivetya wrote: post #173

My biggest disappointment, they announced a product they cannot ship. I remember the good old days, ITS AVAILABLE TODAY. Now Apple is nothing than just what they used to lampoon, a creator of announcements; not products. Perhaps we can hope they use the time to take the obvious feedback flowing in and make it right by launch

This stymies people considering buying competitor watches for this Christmas season, which is the big reason to pre-announce.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by archagon »

arrrg wrote: post #74
k2enemy wrote: post #51

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Really? I thought that looked like one of the neatest things about it. I imagine that people will find all sorts of creative ways to use it for quick communication.

But nobody else will have it. Messaging that no one else has is dumb and useless.

I have plenty of circles (family, work) who exclusively use Apple devices. (Same with Android.) Hardly "dumb" and "stupid" — works great for iMessage.

Re: The Apple Watch

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Post by deong »

zimpenfish wrote: post #171
antr wrote: post #120

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I agree with you too. The Apple Watch is a mass market product, not for heavy users. However, I can imagine many people wearing this watch at gyms, where people tend to look after themselves (healthkit, etc)... but I don't see professionals using it (unless endorsed).

If the battery life doesn't suck (which I fear it does given the total lack of reference to it) and the "iPhone required" isn't as onerous as it seems, I might well wear one just for the easy 24/7* heart rate tracking. Granted the optical ones aren't as good as the HRM straps (as best I remember the dcrainmaker reviews) but they're less onerous for long periods.

I think it's a general limitation of the optical heart rate trackers that they aren't quite "24/7". At least on all the Android Wear devices that feature one, you have to ask it to take a reading, and it's pretty unreliable if you're moving. I didn't see it mentioned in the Apple coverage, but I assume it's probably similarly limited there?
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