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GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Re: GCHQ intercepted webcam images of millions of Yahoo users worldwide

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Post by user24 »

tripzilch wrote: post #139
user24 wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if having the webcam always on but piping to /dev/null would prevent a trojan from accessing it... I also wonder if plugging a 3rd party mic into line-in and switching it off would have a similar effect for the mic. You can never be sure unless your fix is physical.

well if plugging the disabled 3rd party mic somehow leaves the internal one recording, that would imply your soundcard just got upgraded to having the ability for two inputs recording simulataneously. usually cost a premium, such cards :)

- unfortunately the iMac has two mics for noise reduction...

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mullingitover wrote: post #194

The way these disclosures keep building in severity, it almost makes it seem like Greenwald et al are preparing us for some truly horrific news. Something along the lines of, "NSA and GCHQ have been using their agencies' resources to alter the outcome of elections."

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Post by CamperBob2 »

wavefunction wrote: post #160
tzakrajs wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll cite a source for you: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Jesus' ministry replaced all previous commandments. Something Christians have forgotten and an agnostic has to constantly remind them of.

Really? Every jot, every tittle?

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Post by CamperBob2 »

sequoia wrote: post #129

Wait a sec- is Yahoo Messenger video chat a common means of communication between terrorists? "Sidney, get on yahoo we have to discuss the subway bombing. Alright. Is your webcam on? Come on we have to use the webcams- so much communication is nonverbal! I just read this story on time.com about the importance of face to face communication- it was really fascinat-- what? Oh alright back to the bombing. But first turn…

Intelligence agencies are basically drunks looking for their lost car keys under the street lamp, because that's where the light is.

"A bunch of useless wankers," I believe the British would say, if they cared enough to say anything.

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Post by okasaki »

lern_too_spel wrote: post #107
okasaki wrote: post #71

> Yahoo reacted furiously to the webcam interception when approached by the Guardian. That's pretty funny. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:PRISM_Collection_Details.... https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Upstream-slide.jpg

Why? PRISM is about selected (targeted) collection of data from users that the government has a court order for. Every country in the world does this. This program collects data from traffic passing through the UK regardless of whether the UK government has any reason to suspect the users whose data is collected, let alone present those suspicions to a judge. Yahoo has every reason to be outraged.

I don't think those slides are talking about court order related activities. After all, all companies must comply with court orders, so why would the NSA single out the nine as their "current providers"?

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Post by acqq »

wavefunction wrote: post #160
tzakrajs wrote: post #96

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'll cite a source for you: "If a man lies with a male as with a women, both of them shall be put to death for their abominable deed; they have forfeited their lives." (Leviticus 20:13 NAB)

Jesus' ministry replaced all previous commandments. Something Christians have forgotten and an agnostic has to constantly remind them of.

Says who? Definitely not Jesus himself as quoted in the New Testament (his words, directly quoted):

Matthew 5:17-18

"Think not that I came to destroy the law or the prophets: I came not to destroy, but to fulfil. For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass away, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass away from the law, till all things be accomplished."

The "law or the prophets" is, of course, everything written in the Old Testament, where different chapters were attributed to the different prophets already in Jesus' time.

He makes it even stronger:

"Ye have heard that it was said, 'Thou shalt not commit adultery': but I say unto you, that every one that looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart" (Matthew 5:27-28)

Verily, read thine Bible, if you believe it's inspired by God. Read it yourself. Don't believe what others interpret.

Or maybe accept that we shouldn't take that book too seriously?

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Post by throwwit »

bsbechtel wrote: post #112

Just a thought here....these stories get tons of coverage here on HN (and rightly so), but at this point pretty much fall on deaf ears for the rest of our population. Our media is too busy keeping everyone distracted with stories about how a Coke Ad offended 0.000002% of the population and Russia's leaders hate gay people. Nothing against the importance or validity of those stories, but I would hope everyone reading…

I'd be happy if there was more discussion from 'coverage here on HN' that took a solution based approach to the news. Not trying to be an apologist, but it seems counterproductive arguing about all/nothing approaches, when it's obvious governments are not going to condone blindspots.

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Post by wavefunction »

zacinbusiness wrote: post #52
higherpurpose wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What do you think? Anthony Weiner like situations. It was only news a few days ago: https://firstlook.org/theintercept/2014/02/24/jtrig-manipula...

He should have used the Clinton defense. "Is that a picture of my d&@k? It depends on what your definition of d&@k is."

That or "What are you talking about? Mine is humongous and girthy to boot! (ladies)" wink wink

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Post by rl3 »

While the documents do not detail efforts as widescale as those against Yahoo users, one presentation discusses with interest the potential and capabilities of the Xbox 360's Kinect camera, saying it generated "fairly normal webcam traffic" and was being evaluated as part of a wider program.

Suddenly, those tinfoil-wearers within the Project Tango thread the other day don't sound so crazy now.

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