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Re: Nonplussed

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Post by wavefunction »

jondr wrote: post #126
amaks wrote: post #114

"Now there’s one less egg in my Google basket, and I never have to pay attention to anything that has the word “Google+” in it again — just like I did with LinkedIn (stop inviting me, everyone in the world), Pinterest, and a number of other things I had no use for." Enough said. The dude is a typical Facebook user who is addicted to his only social network and upset about integration between YouTube and G+. Better co…

Disclaimer: This is my first comment on HackerNews and probably my last. I'm not a hacker or a software engineer and don't really belong on the site, so don't comment. I'm just some random guy who plays a lot of video games, uses a lot of reddit and has a rough interest in the technology industry. By extension, I watch a lot of YouTube videos from various channels that offer playthroughs (or 'Let's Plays') of games.…

Hey Jon, great informative post! I wouldn't write off your potential contributions to this site just because you're "not a hacker or software engineer."

I know I'm not the only one here to say that if you like well-formulated discussions like those that arise from your post, stick around and be a part of HN...

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by devindotcom »

logn wrote: post #198
devindotcom wrote: post #57

Hey all. I'm the author. I don't really have much to add here except that I was afraid the article, which I dashed off as all that stuff was happening, would come off as whiny. Hope that isn't the case. Thanks for reading and linking.

Thanks for the tip on blocking youtube.com cookies. Never thought of that.

I added it after reading it in another thread here the other day, would give credit if I remembered who mentioned it.

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by turing »

spullara wrote: post #49
turing wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The scenario you describe is precisely why I like G+'s circles; every post and every photo shared is shared with a specific subset of my contacts. The vast majority of my posts on G+ are targeted at only a fraction of my friends.

Facebook had this functionality for years before G+ launched and is built into the status update box.

I'm well aware of that, but the UI is nowhere near as convenient and targeted sharing doesn't play as central a role. "Circles" was the major differentiating feature when G+ launched.

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by improv32 »

MichaelGG wrote: post #100
metalgearbob wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There are actual apps you can download that allow you to save a photo or video, not just the screenshot. I'm actually pretty baffled that people still don't know about them. Renders snapchat useless.

The concept of Snapchat is useless - it's literally DRM. It will work well enough for some folks, but fundamentally it simply isn't technically possible. At least not without a "trusted computing" model with remote attestation and so on.

No, its fundamentally impossible: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Analog_hole

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by JVIDEL »

acjohnson55 wrote: post #189
Houshalter wrote: post #175

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Not everyone wants the stuff they do online completely public. I don't want a potential employer to read a stupid comment I left 7 years ago, or my family to read something I said about atheism, or my friends to read my political comments. Let alone having to explain why I just watched or liked some video, not even leaving a comment. Just because you use a website only for professional stuff doesn't mean everyone doe…

My thing about anonymity and Internet commentary is that neither the producers of content, nor maintainers of the medium, should be under any obligation to provide the consumers with an anonymous forum. This isn't even an issue of "build your own video streaming site with a comments system you like"; YouTube has a nice API. Build your own anonymous community. Or just use Reddit or whatever. At one point, the comments…

Here's the thing, I used to write very polite comments on YouTube that could be divided in either opinions that added to the discussion or questions to the uploader but now this goggle+ bs is so annoying and inconvenient that from now on I'm not making any comments anymore.

But the racist idiot posting the most vile and offensive stuff you have ever read is going to sick around because he enjoys doing that.

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by [deleted] »

itafroma wrote: post #22

I am mostly for the ostensible cleaning up of YouTube comments, but what got me was that any time you share a YouTube video on Google+ proper or comment in a thread where someone shared a YouTube video, it automatically cross-posts what you said back to the comments underneath the video on YouTube. And that's not just for shares/comments going forward: it's everything you've ever shared publicly, ever. I'm now gettin…

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Re: Nonplussed

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Post by ta_delited »

itafroma wrote: post #22

I am mostly for the ostensible cleaning up of YouTube comments, but what got me was that any time you share a YouTube video on Google+ proper or comment in a thread where someone shared a YouTube video, it automatically cross-posts what you said back to the comments underneath the video on YouTube. And that's not just for shares/comments going forward: it's everything you've ever shared publicly, ever. I'm now gettin…

I am mostly for the ostensible removal of YouTube comments, all of them and the ability to comment too. I would not miss youtube if it were to be closed down tomorrow and the whole world would receive an increase of productivity as a result.

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by lmm »

judk wrote: post #96
BadassFractal wrote: post #52

I've been trying to figure out how to delete Google+ for a while, without accidentally nuking some of the other services such as Picasa etc. Heard of folks losing a bunch of data (Youtube videos?) when they remove their G+ accounts, so that's a huge bummer. Perhaps it's time to move on from Google Photos, flickr maybe? I don't want another social network.

Yahoo/Flickr/Tumblr is moving full steam ahead into Yahoo social network, completely ignoring why people still cling to them.

What yahoo social network? I mean, my flickr login is a yahoo account, but I don't think they're stupid enough to try and auto set me up a tumblr account with it.

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by barrkel »

Ever since Google Reader was discontinued, I no longer log in under my real account on my primary browser any more (I don't use Gmail's web interface either).

Frankly I think that's the way to go. Ideally, we'd have better identity support in our browsers to control which set of cookies to hand out based on which top-level URL we're visiting.

Re: Nonplussed

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Post by Havoc »

a3n wrote: post #177
Havoc wrote: post #129

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Personally I think it can't be reversed. Its too profitable and there are too many sheeple out there. As for something "altogether different". I don't see it happening. There are just too many powerful vested interest at work. e.g. We can't even get a HTML standard pushed through without DRM. This might sound cynical, but personally I feel its the end of an era. The internet used to be the wild west where anything is…

> Personally I think it can't be reversed. Its too profitable and there are too many sheeple out there. The "internet," i.e. TCP/IP, is still there pretty much as it always was. Google's interface is almost all web on top of the internet, Facebook too. Anyone is free to use anything else implemented on the internet. Fastmail makes a handy living at implementing smtp and imap on top of TCP/IP; their value is excellent…

> The "internet," i.e. TCP/IP, is still there pretty much as it always was.

That might be true to you & me, but to the masses the internet is google, facebook, twitter etc.

Yes you can build anything on it, but can you compete against an opponent that is bigger, more powerful, has networking effects on its side and is more willing to use questionable tactics? Service goes a long way, but it doesn't scale well and its not enough against those odds (imo).

>Anyone is free to use anything else implemented on the internet.

Are they? Its not really about what you are free to use, but more about what you can skip. See the author in the article...does he sound like he is free to not use G+? Plus there are powerful networking effects at play...I never wanted a FB account but my friends kept bugging me about it. In a practical scenario users have very little freedom to do what they want & it only gets worse if they're technically illiterate.

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